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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 02 Dec 19 7.04pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

If weíre going to blame a film, Iíd suggest seeing it would be the basic requirement.

Oh because no one would know what it's about until the lights went down.
Yup we all go to the cinema not having a rough idea of what the film we want to see is about.
That's obviously why there is no correlation in the type of film and the type of people wanting to watch it.
It all makes sense now !!!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 02 Dec 19 7.06pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

when 90% of the immigration into the country is male

you get a lopsided gender balance (overly male) living in the country


thus, you get a violent society.

(nothing to do with Movies )

Maybe if the family to follow rule was ditched these men might not come here.
Personally I dont think they give an absolute crap about their women and kids otherwise they wouldn't have left them.

 

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View sickboy's Profile sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 02 Dec 19 7.12pm Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Iím far from convinced there is a link, would be my honest answer.

I donít know what crime rates at cinemas are like generally, but Iíd imagine theyíre fairly regular given cinemas are a relatively insecure, late night venue which kids can access.

The brawl in Birmingham was obviously something way outside of normal, but weíre talking about 100 kids brawling in what is essentially a shopping centre (that also happens to host a cinema) - Iíve seen similar in Whitgift and Stratford Westfield - I donít see any link to the film.

You can see how easy the link is to make though and how it happens so quickly; just look at the phrasing of your question - ďmany incidents of violence at the cinemaĒ - what that really means is there was one brawl, which people tried to attribute to this film, and now every incidient at a cinema where this film is playing (which is every cinema in the country) thereís a nice scapegoat to use, as we see in the link above - neither participant saw the film, said anything about the film, the police dismiss the link, but the Newspaper headline does the complete opposite and people lap it up because it sits a narrative.

Ok. I agree the film has not/cannot have influenced these people if they have not seen it.
Would you concede that the film being shown has drawn a certain type of person, in a certain lifestyle, into the cinema where they have clashed with rivals?

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 02 Dec 19 8.26pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Oh because no one would know what it's about until the lights went down.
Yup we all go to the cinema not having a rough idea of what the film we want to see is about.
That's obviously why there is no correlation in the type of film and the type of people wanting to watch it.
It all makes sense now !!!

Is there any evidence that any of any of those involved were at the cinema because of the film?

Or do they just fit a very broad demographic of people? and is that enough to be so sure of a correlation? Bearing in mind millions of people have actually seen it.

For me, itís not.

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (02 Dec 2019 8.31pm)

 

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Originally posted by sickboy

Ok. I agree the film has not/cannot have influenced these people if they have not seen it.
Would you concede that the film being shown has drawn a certain type of person, in a certain lifestyle, into the cinema where they have clashed with rivals?

I think Iíve answered in my response to cryst; I havenít seen anything to suggest they were drawn to the cinema for that film other than they fit a rough demographic.

My view is that the type of arseholes roaming the streets with machetes are not particularly influenced in their day to day decisions by whatís on at the cinema that day.

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (02 Dec 2019 8.31pm)

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 02 Dec 19 9.11pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I think Iíve answered in my response to cryst; I havenít seen anything to suggest they were drawn to the cinema for that film other than they fit a rough demographic.

My view is that the type of arseholes roaming the streets with machetes are not particularly influenced in their day to day decisions by whatís on at the cinema that day.

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (02 Dec 2019 8.31pm)

Possibly not influenced but they may be attracted by the probability of like minded individuals, particularly rivals, seeing the film.
The target demographic is simply more likely to commit violent acts than that at the last night of the proms.

 

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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I think Iíve answered in my response to cryst; I havenít seen anything to suggest they were drawn to the cinema for that film other than they fit a rough demographic.

My view is that the type of arseholes roaming the streets with machetes are not particularly influenced in their day to day decisions by whatís on at the cinema that day.

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (02 Dec 2019 8.31pm)

A film about gangs! I'm pretty sure you know what person that would want to see it.

Remember feever pitch, have a guess of who wanted to watch that.

 

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