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 Badger11  Beckenham 05 Jun 19 4.59pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
It seems to me that Boris' main challenge was getting enough MPs onside to get into the top two. His numbers are looking very healthy now though, so it's hard to imagine that he won't be top two, and become the next PM. Unless people switching allegiances during the process. What's your read of it? Last time there was a concerted effort to get Boris by many Tory MPs. This time, well turkeys don't normally vote for Christmas, so unless they are sitting on a 30,000 majority I expect they will vote for the person they think will win the next election.
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| Maine Eagle USA 05 Jun 19 5.01pm |
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Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE
What we need is a GE and for Nigel Farage to get in So what is his manifesto other than brexit? What are his positions on trade, health, military or pensions?
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| ChrisGC Wantage 05 Jun 19 5.24pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
So what is his manifesto other than brexit? What are his positions on trade, health, military or pensions? Don't care.
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| deleted user 05 Jun 19 6.00pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
So what is his manifesto other than brexit? What are his positions on trade, health, military or pensions? Red, white and blue something something? All joking aside, Nigel Farage has always been part single issue, part publicity machine. Without a doubt though he has managed to have a significant impact within our two party system. Where he falls on the political spectrum is relevant to the moment, but there's nothing stopping others from emulating his approach in future in using a party platform as a constant single issue referendum of sorts to pressure the main parties. In future the Green party are well positioned to do something similar, with the environment realities that will present over time. If anything some of their other policies get in the way. Surplus to requirements. In some ways it makes more sense to vote for an issue than to be wedded to a party. That's Farage's approach. A key central issue with a bit of window dressing. Farage will keep pressing with the strategy and I'm pretty sure they'll win the Peterborough by-election even though it's a one issue party. People have become so attached to the tags of remain and leave right now, that it's hard to read too much into what comes next though. My prevailing thought is that we have too much information coming in, and would be better off throwing our TVs out of the window and living lives more wedded to our locality.
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| Sportyteacher London 06 Jun 19 10.48am |
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Originally posted by dollardays
Red, white and blue something something? All joking aside, Nigel Farage has always been part single issue, part publicity machine. Without a doubt though he has managed to have a significant impact within our two party system. Where he falls on the political spectrum is relevant to the moment, but there's nothing stopping others from emulating his approach in future in using a party platform as a constant single issue referendum of sorts to pressure the main parties. In future the Green party are well positioned to do something similar, with the environment realities that will present over time. If anything some of their other policies get in the way. Surplus to requirements. In some ways it makes more sense to vote for an issue than to be wedded to a party. That's Farage's approach. A key central issue with a bit of window dressing. Farage will keep pressing with the strategy and I'm pretty sure they'll win the Peterborough by-election even though it's a one issue party. People have become so attached to the tags of remain and leave right now, that it's hard to read too much into what comes next though. My prevailing thought is that we have too much information coming in, and would be better off throwing our TVs out of the window and living lives more wedded to our locality. Looks like Brexit Party will win today's Peterborough By-Election given opinion poll ratings etc. Says as much about current mood of electorate yet how much credibility does one put towards the voters who are blinded by a one policy party?
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| W12 06 Jun 19 11.18am | |
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Originally posted by dollardays
Red, white and blue something something? All joking aside, Nigel Farage has always been part single issue, part publicity machine. Without a doubt though he has managed to have a significant impact within our two party system. Where he falls on the political spectrum is relevant to the moment, but there's nothing stopping others from emulating his approach in future in using a party platform as a constant single issue referendum of sorts to pressure the main parties. In future the Green party are well positioned to do something similar, with the environment realities that will present over time. If anything some of their other policies get in the way. Surplus to requirements. In some ways it makes more sense to vote for an issue than to be wedded to a party. That's Farage's approach. A key central issue with a bit of window dressing. Farage will keep pressing with the strategy and I'm pretty sure they'll win the Peterborough by-election even though it's a one issue party. People have become so attached to the tags of remain and leave right now, that it's hard to read too much into what comes next though. My prevailing thought is that we have too much information coming in, and would be better off throwing our TVs out of the window and living lives more wedded to our locality. I think that's exactly what most Brexiteers want
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| Midlands Eagle 06 Jun 19 11.43am |
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
Looks like Brexit Party will win today's Peterborough By-Election given opinion poll ratings etc. Says as much about current mood of electorate yet how much credibility does one put towards the voters who are blinded by a one policy party? Your choice of wording shows your bias. Why should voters be "blinded" by a one policy party? If there was an election in my constituency now I would vote for your so called one policy party just so that I can send a message to the Government to tell them what it is that I want them to do
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| Badger11 Beckenham 06 Jun 19 11.50am |
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
Looks like Brexit Party will win today's Peterborough By-Election given opinion poll ratings etc. Says as much about current mood of electorate yet how much credibility does one put towards the voters who are blinded by a one policy party? Well I am sure that supporters of the SNP, Welsh Nationalist, Sinn Fein, the Unionists, Green party etc. will all be delighted to know that.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Jun 19 11.22am |
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Latest Conservative MP support numbers for the top six : Johnson 48, Hunt 33, Gove 32, Raab 24, Javid 17, Hancock 12.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 07 Jun 19 11.34am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Latest Conservative MP support numbers for the top six : Johnson 48, Hunt 33, Gove 32, Raab 24, Javid 17, Hancock 12. I think Dominic Raab's suggestion that he might shut down Parliament to engineer Brexit is a misstep and not worthy of him. All through this process some Remainers have tried to use all sorts of dodges to block Brexit and deny the will of the people. Running the clock down on parliament is stooping to their level. I want Brexit and I want parliament to acknowledge the referendum result by voting for it rather than some three card trick. If that were to happen we would not hear the end of it from the Remainers and there would be all sorts of legal challenges. Parliament must be allowed a vote and any Tory leader should make it clear if their MPs vote against it they will be deselected at the next GE which would be my next step immediately after losing the vote in Parliament. That is the leader we need. I would offer a carrot to the Tory Remainers. Vote to leave now and once this has happened you are free to campaign to re-join the EU. If they can't do that then they should look for another party. I still think Johnson will win. Last night's result shows what happens when the Tory vote is split (Tory / Brexit party) letting Labour back in. Self interest will prevail and the MPs will hold their noses and vote Johnson. He's not my choice but better him than Corbyn.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 07 Jun 19 11.41am |
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I wouldn't trust Hunt or Gove to deliver 'actual' Brexit and I'm not massively sure Boris can be trusted either. Shame Esther McVey's not among the favourites and she is a true believer in Brexit.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 07 Jun 19 11.43am |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
I wouldn't trust Hunt or Gove to deliver 'actual' Brexit and I'm not massively sure Boris can be trusted either. Shame Esther McVey's not among the favourites and she is a true believer in Brexit. Indeed however I heard her on LBC refuse to apologise for
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