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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 29 Jun 19 2.08am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That time when a Russian dictator....who I'm not a fan of....talks much more sense than your own leaders on the state of the west.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jun 2019 10.48am)

We agree about something! I don't like Putin either. I think he is not just a dictator. He is a murderous despot too.

Like all such people he never says or does anything without considering the personal impact.

Therefore this statement of his seems much more a calculated massaging of the Trump ego than anything that he sincerely believes. He plays Trump, as do so many world leaders, by flattering his vanity.

What is truly sad is that the current POTUS has more in common with someone like Putin than most democracy loving Americans.

Putin is just doing more of what he has been doing ever since the spectre of Trump poked it's ugly head onto the political stage. He is sowing dissent and seeking to cause division in the western democracies.

Whatever our political views might be we ought all stay together to resist such attacks on us.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag Wisbech, England 29 Jun 19 5.27am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We agree about something! I don't like Putin either. I think he is not just a dictator. He is a murderous despot too.

Like all such people he never says or does anything without considering the personal impact.

Therefore this statement of his seems much more a calculated massaging of the Trump ego than anything that he sincerely believes. He plays Trump, as do so many world leaders, by flattering his vanity.

What is truly sad is that the current POTUS has more in common with someone like Putin than most democracy loving Americans.

Putin is just doing more of what he has been doing ever since the spectre of Trump poked it's ugly head onto the political stage. He is sowing dissent and seeking to cause division in the western democracies.

Whatever our political views might be we ought all stay together to resist such attacks on us.

We partly agree on paragraphs one and five.

Whatever anyone's views of Putin something can be true or false independent of who says it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jun 2019 5.29am)

 

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View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 29 Jun 19 7.13am Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We agree about something! I don't like Putin either. I think he is not just a dictator. He is a murderous despot too.

Like all such people he never says or does anything without considering the personal impact.

Therefore this statement of his seems much more a calculated massaging of the Trump ego than anything that he sincerely believes. He plays Trump, as do so many world leaders, by flattering his vanity.

What is truly sad is that the current POTUS has more in common with someone like Putin than most democracy loving Americans.

Putin is just doing more of what he has been doing ever since the spectre of Trump poked it's ugly head onto the political stage. He is sowing dissent and seeking to cause division in the western democracies.

Whatever our political views might be we ought all stay together to resist such attacks on us.

Definitely gets my vote, absolute lad.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 29 Jun 19 8.31am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

My Russian neighbour thinks he is great and that he is genuinely popular in Russia with the people.

She doesn't approve of the assinations of course but then she is also not convinced Putin did it. I think most Russians don't believe or don't care after all they were traitors to Russia.

Different mind sight but then her dad was a general in the Red Army.

 


One more point

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 29 Jun 19 11.03am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Hard to disagree with him.

Very easy indeed. Populist nonsense with the moral integrity of a goebbels speech. Somebody open a window

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag Wisbech, England 29 Jun 19 11.14am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Very easy indeed. Populist nonsense with the moral integrity of a goebbels speech. Somebody open a window

You have the audacity to refer to nonsense when you compare it to a Goebbel's speech?

It's something to note really, I mean he's Russian, and you have the communist era which under Stalin murdered far more than Hitler managed.

Yet when you think of which regime to refer to....instead of his own countrymen you think of the WW2 Germans.

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 29 Jun 19 11.19am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Another old white man left behind with how the world works?

Imagine my shock.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 29 Jun 19 11.26am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I don't agree with Putin who of course has his own agenda. I don't have a problem with democracy I do have a problem with liberal democracy.

Liberal democracy often means pushing politics and agenda that the public don't want and didn't ask for where's the democracy in that.

As for plain old democracy as Churchill said it's the worst possible system apart from all the others.

 


One more point

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 29 Jun 19 11.36am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Another old white man left behind with how the world works?

Imagine my shock.

Not how the world works. How the minority are trying to change the world, including the family unit and traditional core values, not changing it to the strangest difference possible or shoving or chucking millions of people into a place when it’s been proven the 2 cultures do not mix successfully.

‘Liberal democracy often means pushing politics and agenda that the public don't want and didn't ask for where's the democracy in that.’

By Badger.

 


COYP

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 29 Jun 19 4.29pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You have the audacity to refer to nonsense when you compare it to a Goebbel's speech?

It's something to note really, I mean he's Russian, and you have the communist era which under Stalin murdered far more than Hitler managed.

Yet when you think of which regime to refer to....instead of his own countrymen you think of the WW2 Germans.


Stalin and Hitler - 2 sides of the same coin. One murdered undesirable races and creeds the other undesirable bourgeois and "counter revolutionaries".

I was liking his ranting foaming tosh about immigrants coming in raping babies in their cots etc. But on reflection the west already has its very own leader spouting similar gubbins so perhaps I should not have looked back that far for a comparison.

Immigration control yes. Demonising the poor feckers seeking a better life no

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 29 Jun 19 4.32pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Not how the world works. How the minority are trying to change the world, including the family unit and traditional core values, not changing it to the strangest difference possible or shoving or chucking millions of people into a place when it’s been proven the 2 cultures do not mix successfully.

‘Liberal democracy often means pushing politics and agenda that the public don't want and didn't ask for where's the democracy in that.’

By Badger.

Are not most hard won freedoms we take for granted once pushed into law in the teeth of popular opposition?

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag The toppermost of the poppermost 29 Jun 19 5.14pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Are not most hard won freedoms we take for granted once pushed into law in the teeth of popular opposition?

Examples?

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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