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View AERO's Profile AERO Flag 26 Jul 19 10.28am Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

Parish should have always been aware Zaha could leave anytime , even when signing an extension to his contract. I honestly believe the latest rumour ! Although a rumour is the Chelsea interest is deal I can see happening . Chelsea buying Zaha and loaning back until Ban lifted. Pay the 60 mil and throw in Batman or ,and another. Everyone happy and we don’t have to rush replacement or disrupt team too much before the season starts .

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 26 Jul 19 10.29am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

See Dougie comment above... it’s a bit of chicken and egg thing going on with Southampton. Didn’t they take Fonte and Clyne off our hands for a miserly sum?

Clyne ran his contract out and we were awarded a sum by tribunal as he was still a youngster

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Jul 19 10.47am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

I'm not denying the facts and I do agree with most of the article.

Maybe our first 11 was top 8 potential, but how often do you get to be able to play your first choices ? The squad is more of a problem because we lack quality in depth. And attracting quality players to compete for a place at our club is where we have difficulty.

There is increased nervousness around this year because we sold AWB and the Zaha situation. And you can include me in that. I don't think Parish anticipated Zaha wanting to go otherwise maybe he would not have sold AWB.

At the moment it's difficult to be positive about the coming season, but that could all change if we manage to onboard a couple of decent players. I'm not holding my breath on that one though.

Yep. I’d love to know Parish’s thinking this summer, especially with the AWB/Zaha conundrum. Selling either one has pros and cons, or he just took the sale of the first one.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Jul 19 10.48am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by alffy

Looking at the age of our squad and the lack of young transfers (in fact any transfers) we could be in serious trouble in a few years time. Not spending on young players now could mean most of our team will be from our U23's, and they aren't exactly proving themselves after recent performances. Our plan seems very short sighted and as a result it's costing us more money.

Yep. And what is Freedman finding us? Unless Meyer has a better 2nd season which does happen, not a lot is the answer.

 


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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 26 Jul 19 10.48am Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Clyne ran his contract out and we were awarded a sum by tribunal as he was still a youngster

Then Southampton sold him to Liverpool for a lump of money!

 

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View new_in_Wait's Profile new_in_Wait Flag Lewisham 26 Jul 19 10.58am Send a Private Message to new_in_Wait Add new_in_Wait as a friend

Originally posted by alffy

Looking at the age of our squad and the lack of young transfers (in fact any transfers) we could be in serious trouble in a few years time. Not spending on young players now could mean most of our team will be from our U23's, and they aren't exactly proving themselves after recent performances. Our plan seems very short sighted and as a result it's costing us more money.

Also, when we brought in Sakho, Luka, PVA (who I still really like), I think we've promised them an overhaul of the team and maybe compete for Europe. I don't think we just told them yeah we'll fight to avoid relegation every single year. Now, with their contracts coming into the final 1-2 years, you can understand why they're reassessing. Luka can play at Inter/Valencia level and thus play CL football and not have to worry about relegation. Sakho can get a contract with any top French team other than PSG...

I don't think SP intentionally lied to them or anything, but his plan didn't work out or he didn't work hard enough to achieve it. Luka really loves the fans and setup here, but why wouldn't he like the one at Valencia, or a decent German side that's not Bayern?

All this to say the players we might be losing much sooner than we think experience the shortcomings in the squad much more intensely than we do, and you can't blame them if they want out.

With a core of Kelly, Schlupp, Kouyate, Henn, and Wickham I do worry about our Championship status too in case we go down this season.

 

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View Dhutch23's Profile Dhutch23 Flag 26 Jul 19 11.08am Send a Private Message to Dhutch23 Add Dhutch23 as a friend

We have a ageing squad, one of the oldest in the premier league with only two players now below 25 sorloth and meyer. I would say this is concerning, especially as we dont seem to be linked with any players coming through.

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 26 Jul 19 11.41am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by AERO

Parish should have always been aware Zaha could leave anytime , even when signing an extension to his contract. I honestly believe the latest rumour ! Although a rumour is the Chelsea interest is deal I can see happening . Chelsea buying Zaha and loaning back until Ban lifted. Pay the 60 mil and throw in Batman or ,and another. Everyone happy and we don’t have to rush replacement or disrupt team too much before the season starts .


How can Chelsea buy any players to loan back under a transfer embargo?

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 26 Jul 19 12.39pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave


How can Chelsea buy any players to loan back under a transfer embargo?

I wonder if these Chelsea stories are genuine or is just Wilf's extended family of scroungers trying to force Arsenal to pull their fingers out

 

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I wonder if these Chelsea stories are genuine or is just Wilf's extended family of scroungers trying to force Arsenal to pull their fingers out


As Chelsea have an embargo for breaking transfer rules, I'd expect them to be under close scrutiny if they try to somehow circumvent that embargo; it certainly wouldn't enhance their appeal chances. My personal view is that the idea that Chelsea would give us a sack of cash and loan us a player, on a nod and a wink that Zaha will transfer to them next summer, is at best wishful thinking. I wouldn't rule out the Chelsea stories coming from the circus that Zaha has surrounded himself with.

 


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Originally posted by bexleydave


How can Chelsea buy any players to loan back under a transfer embargo?


They are allowed to sign players it does not block this what it blocks is registering them to play for you.

So yes they could sign people and loan them out.

this is why the whole transfer ban thing is a complete joke again favors big clubs as we keep seeing them exploiting it.

 


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Originally posted by grumpymort

They are allowed to sign players it does not block this what it blocks is registering them to play for you.

So yes they could sign people and loan them out.

this is why the whole transfer ban thing is a complete joke again favors big clubs as we keep seeing them exploiting it.

"Chelsea will not be able to sign any players this summer..."

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No disrespect, but I'm inclined to give preference to the Independent's interpretation over yours.

 


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