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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 30 Oct 19 10.10am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Theresa May rightly recognised she needed a larger Conservative majority to 'Get Brexit done' but a combination of a dire manifesto and campaign put paid to that.

In terms of the polls, I take nothing for granted and not assuming that the Conservatives will romp home as the polls currently suggest.

Don't forget she was a staunch remainer and rumours are that she cried when she heard the referendum result

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 30 Oct 19 10.16am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Please add more, Willo.

Public sector borrowing has risen by a fifth during the first half of the financial year, official figures show.

Borrowing for the six months to September has now hit £40.3bn, up £7.4bn from the same period in 2018.

In the month of September, borrowing was £9.4bn - slightly lower than expected but still up from £8.8bn last year.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Oct 19 10.32am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Public sector borrowing has risen by a fifth during the first half of the financial year, official figures show.

Borrowing for the six months to September has now hit £40.3bn, up £7.4bn from the same period in 2018.

In the month of September, borrowing was £9.4bn - slightly lower than expected but still up from £8.8bn last year.

Do you want more policing? Oh you want to tax more, AND MORE AND MORE, of course.

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 30 Oct 19 11.36am Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by mezzer

Willo, I know you're passionate about the standing/sitting debate.

So are you campaigning for the candidate that is standing for re-election or for the sitting MP?

Think we as voters should get rid of ALL sitting MP's & start again IMO

 


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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 30 Oct 19 11.36am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

I can imagine the Brexit Party doing well in the seats they put up candidates in. I really can't see how the Tory Party can do well after this whole mess is completely down to them. What was the point of the Tory party bringing in the 5 year term act if they are just going to break it whenever it suits them?

At the last election, Labour did much better than I expected but then I believed the polls (and HoL) and was expecting them to be annihilated. Success for them will be keeping the same number of MPs.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 30 Oct 19 12.03pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Who will win?

There is already talk amongst the opposition parties about tactical voting and unofficial alliances and no doubt many of the electorate are coming to the same conclusion. Meanwhile the Brexit party can be king makers.

All this means is that the polls can't be trusted. Boris may have a lead but if the opposition can get their act together in key marginal constituencies it will count for nothing.

At the last GE Labour increased their share of the vote however it was in areas where they already had strong support so an MP with a 5,000 majority won with a 10,000 majority. They didn't win overall because they failed elsewhere.

This time tactical voting is going to play a far more significant role than eve before.

Corbyn will try and move the GE from Brexit to more traditional issues such as NHS and housing. Boris will play the parliament let the country down so give me the majority I need card.

My hope is that we get an overall winner with a mandate to govern.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 30 Oct 19 12.05pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Think we as voters should get rid of ALL sitting MP's & start again IMO

Agreed, in six days time maybe we could have a party and resolve the issue then.

 


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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 30 Oct 19 12.05pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by topcat

I can imagine the Brexit Party doing well in the seats they put up candidates in. I really can't see how the Tory Party can do well after this whole mess is completely down to them. What was the point of the Tory party bringing in the 5 year term act if they are just going to break it whenever it suits them?

At the last election, Labour did much better than I expected but then I believed the polls (and HoL) and was expecting them to be annihilated. Success for them will be keeping the same number of MPs.

Last time Labour indicated they'd ditch tuition fees, which was very popular. I wonder if they do the same this time.

 

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View Dannyh.V2's Profile Dannyh.V2 Flag Stone lickers 30 Oct 19 12.09pm Send a Private Message to Dannyh.V2 Add Dannyh.V2 as a friend

Originally posted by topcat

I can imagine the Brexit Party doing well in the seats they put up candidates in. I really can't see how the Tory Party can do well after this whole mess is completely down to them. What was the point of the Tory party bringing in the 5 year term act if they are just going to break it whenever it suits them?

At the last election, Labour did much better than I expected but then I believed the polls (and HoL) and was expecting them to be annihilated. Success for them will be keeping the same number of MPs.

Is it ?

It's not is it, it is however Parliaments fault as a whole. Having the leave voters win, and then not leaving was parliaments fault and not just the Conservative Government.

Corbyn asking for election after election, then only agreeing to one after an extension to Brexit was asked for. The DUP being the typical small minded short angry man of politics, and lets not forget the house of Lords whom 80 percent are receiving ridiculous pensions from the EU itself who pushed through the bill barring the way for a no deal brexit, effectively meaning we were going into negotiations with one armed tied behind our back.

It is the money grabbing self serving lying conniving shytehawk remainers across all parties that have delayed what the public voted for, not just the ones in the Tory Party.

I can see the Tory's Joining Forces with Farage and dropping the DUP like a stone. If they don't I can see a lot of disillusioned leave voters voting for the Brexit Party, taking away votes for the Tory's which in turn could give Labour and their absolute grade A cnut of a leader more seats than they, or anyone else for that matter would expect.

However I have faith that the British Electorate, no matter what their view on Brexit, immigration, NHS, etc etc are not a bunch of swivel eyed socialists and wouldn't trust Corbyn with hitting water if he fell out of a boat, let alone run the country.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Oct 19 12.31pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Boring.

Corbyn already started with his tedious whine on the NHS.

Change the record comrade. Surely no one with an ounce of intelligence buys his baloney.

If his friend Tony Blair hadn't allowed 300k people a year to migrate to Britain, maybe the NHS would be under less strain.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Oct 19 12.40pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

Last time Labour indicated they'd ditch tuition fees, which was very popular. I wonder if they do the same this time.

The cost of this is?

They already have enough of the student vote and with a winning minority they’d team up with the Lib non Dems and SNP.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 30 Oct 19 12.44pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Monster Raving Loony are the dark horse in the GE 2019 election.

They are bound to score with their popular brexit policies:-

1. Make Germany pay for German measles.

2. Make Spain pay for Spanish flu.

3. Make foreigners pay to use the English Channel.

These are far more attractive to voters than Johnsons deal where the UK submits to EU law and pays them billions of pounds year in and year out, for precisely nothing.

Revoke and repent, you have nothing to lose but your veto.

 

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