The more important immediate problem is how to restrain him in these coming days.

Hopefully the military already have contingency plans in place to avoid him doing anything really stupid.

Whether his staff also now decide to refuse to accept any extreme demands might be an option.

The 25th amendment is apparently now being considered. Not before time in my view. I guess once all the ducks were lined up that could produce a very swift result which would be better done if Trump's social media accounts remained silent or, even better, if he were to be taken into some kind of protective custody. The danger, of course, is turning him from a villain into a martyr.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Only nutters would see these burning down buildings or looting as heroes. I only ever saw those acts comdemned on here. On one level you yourself must see the description of 'they broke some windows' as ludicrous. People died, and elected politicians even those who supported Trump all the way were cowering in fear as people, several armed, tried to get to them. From happens in the seat of power happens.

Taking like for like, realistically if it had been BLM or the like storming the building yesterday there would no zero circumspect 'its only..' anything on here. It would be a way to crowbar in endless racial comments. And there would be bodies galore on the scene.

I don't know how the other three died but you certainly make salient points.....I saw an initial distinct lack of curiously from the media that is certainly a deep contrast to other events we could mention.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Hence why I said 'normality' returns. But please, when the bombing does start, lets not bore us all with how much you dislike it when it is patently clear that you would rather have a President in charge who does happily order it all.

The US had an economy that was booming, employment amongst a variety of non-white communities at a record level and was pursuing a non-interventionist foreign policy.

Then comes Covid and gaming the system.

What for? What do you think Biden is going to do better than Trump?

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

You raised the racial element with the BLM comparisons. You don't want to link this to being about race on account that it's vastly white people storming the building and terrorising elected officials. It's inconvenient.

Certainly there are fractures on the left too, I'm not denying that, or even that there are racial components to that. My point was that parties adjust their message based on the electorate and are no strangers to fine tuning their message. It would seem unlikely that we're going to have one party in power for decades. Parties will just broaden their appeal to the majority (as in the majority of the population, not a racial majority or plurality).

From the derisory reaction to the mob law on Capitol Hill by other world leaders, you would struggle to think the USA had any moral authority and democratic credibility anymore after this.

They will not be preached to in the name of 'freedom or 'democracy', on the contrary they see weakness and instability.

To them it must seem incredible that Trump is still there even now, they must be enjoying him dragging his country through the mire.