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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Dealing with factual evidence is what I am talking about. Expressing opinions about the past performance of the EU is obviously a legitimate debating point. Leave though went well beyond that as they suggested many things that were simply aspirations presented as fact. You have only to look at the way the "trade deals" were handled and how easy they would be to achieve. "Within days" of leaving was the promise. Countless new agreements with the rest of the world would flow like milk and honey into our sceptred isle. Del Boy garbage sold to the gullible.

PR ensures genuine representative democracy and stops either the right or the left gaining, usually only temporily, any kind of handle on power. It avoids roller coaster politics and produces slow but steady progress. Much the better alternative. Nothing is perfect.


That anyone can still support this idiot is the puzzle. Which will engage historians for years to come as they try to analyse the reasons why it has happened. Different opinions are normal but there is nothing normal about Trump.



The consequences of leaving the EU have not been realised. Therefore all the negatives you claim are still just the scaremongering they always were.
Also, the economic factors were only one aspect of any decision. You seem deliberately blind to the other reasons why people feared continued membership.

PR most certainly guarantees perpetual political stalemate and an inability to make timely policy. The advarsarial two party system is by no means ideal but if it is replaced, it must be with something workable and not a ball and chain to decision making.

Trump is President for obvious reasons. A very large proportion of the United States did not trust Hillary Clinton, and with good reason, and feared,with good reason, the 'Hispanicification' of America and all the cultural problems it brings. White America rejected the policies that place them last and some of non White America rejected the victim mantra in favour of self determination.


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Oct 20 7.43pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


The consequences of leaving the EU have not been realised. Therefore all the negatives you claim are still just the scaremongering they always were.
Also, the economic factors were only one aspect of any decision. You seem deliberately blind to the other reasons why people feared continued membership.

Far too much Brexit here but of course they haven't yet been realised as we remain in transition. The effect though is very far from scaremongering. The impact becomes clearer every day. The promised easy peasy deal looks a dead duck. Where are all the new deals that will replace it? I don't see a queue! I don't see anything that suggests people "feared" remaining. I heard a lot of emotional claptrap, but not a lot else.

PR most certainly guarantees perpetual political stalemate and an inability to make timely policy. The advarsarial two party system is by no means ideal but if it is replaced, it must be with something workable and not a ball and chain to decision making.

Completely untrue. it produces the need to compromise and irons out swings to the margins. Those who use it seem to manage pretty well.

Trump is President for obvious reasons. A very large proportion of the United States did not trust Hillary Clinton, and with good reason, and feared,with good reason, the 'Hispanicification' of America and all the cultural problems it brings. White America rejected the policies that place them last and some of non White America rejected the victim mantra in favour of self determination.

A large proportion that did not constitute a majority. Deflecting the blame onto Clinton doesn't address the issue of Trump himself. That the US political system no longer serves is true but Trump only makes that worse. He is the equivalent in US politics of taking bleach to cure C19.


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Online Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Oct 20 7.46pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

You're replies are getting more humourous. I enjoyed the bleach comment. Keep it up!

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

You're replies are getting more humourous. I enjoyed the bleach comment. Keep it up!

And less substantial.

 

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CNN analyst and smear merchant caught w***ing on camera. Of course CNN instead of sacking him have asked him to take some time off.

 


Pro USA & Israel

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Originally posted by Jimenez

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CNN analyst and smear merchant caught w***ing on camera. Of course CNN instead of sacking him have asked him to take some time off.


“I believed I was not visible on Zoom”.
Kind of defeats its purpose.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And less substantial.

Better that than neither, eh Judge?

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

Better that than neither, eh Judge?

I'll take that as a compliment.

The 'Judge' was right about everything as it turned out.

 

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Originally posted by Jimenez

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CNN analyst and smear merchant caught w***ing on camera. Of course CNN instead of sacking him have asked him to take some time off.

We all do it.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'll take that as a compliment.

The 'Judge' was right about everything as it turned out.

Will you? You think no substance and no humour makes a great poster. That explains quite a lot.

 

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

We all do it.

I can see a few hail Mary's coming your way

 

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