I certainly think that we should be doing what we’re doing but not for long. If people obeyed the rules the lockdown will be over and the sooner the better. When I hear someone (David Buik) who’s gained more from capitalism and is at the very front of the information say we should be doing what we’re doing but it has to be short lived then I feel even more confident that it’s the right thing to do.

It sounds like this is being discussed by every LBC host today so it’s going to come into discussion, debate and public conscience. Let’s just hope that it doesn’t give people the idea that they take it upon themselves to end the lockdown so we don’t get to where the end goal is.

I thought you agreed on A lockdown anyway, but not a long one. Mid April is what I remember you saying. Mine is a bit further along than that. A bit, but not so far along that poverty causes real hardship, deaths and more of them than the disease. We aren’t that far apart. Maybe you thought that from my agreement with DanH on the spike of deaths we would’ve faced. Many more cases, more healthy people without enough respirators would’ve died and the knock on effects we’ve discussed before.

Unsure if this has been covered yet, but the thread is getting too sedate so why not.

I see the usual morons are out and about trying to equate 5G masts with Coronavirus.

Incredible. Essentially just repackaging the mobile phone, then 2G, 3G, 4G dross for... 5G! People think I’m unduly harsh to the general population but Christ alive. The earth is flat!

Hopefully this episode is a good opportunity for some ruthless natural selection to occur.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (04 Apr 2020 1.45pm)

You’re ignoring the elephant in the room, which is it doesn’t really matter how long lockdown lasts for or not. If there isn’t a vaccine, there will simply be a second wave of infection, and then a second round of lockdown. As I’ve listed before, my take is that will happen September/October after a brief period of respite. Going further I think they already know that it will happen like this but have to lift it for a while to prevent people going mad/losing out too much. Then back to where we were until a vaccine appears in 2021

From here, considering the paths that have been taken, it would probably be mid April.

However, my position was for lockdown only for the time it took to implement what isolation was possible for the vulnerable and NHS funding for provision, get the social distance message out and set up mandated hygiene systems.

That would have seen us out of lockdown far earlier and minimized what's coming far more.

We don't agree on actions based on 'the curve' which appears to be yours and the current majority position.

But that's ok, I understand why you and others take that position. You think there would be hundreds of thousands dead otherwise. The thing is that other countries have taken far more liberal approaches so I guess we will find out. Sweden haven't implemented anything like the economic or police state like restrictions we have and I suppose time will show whether as a percentage the fears of yourself and many others are realised there.....but at the moment they have a lower death per million than us.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Apr 2020 2.31pm)

Completely agree.

All the time there is no vaccine then there is no way we can go back to what we used to know as normality.

I’m guessing that lockdown will only be particularly, but not fully lifted in a month or so, once ventilators and testing kits have been manufactured in far greater numbers.

It would not surprise me to see things like daily testing of all children before every school day and maybe temperature test before entering certain shops etc.

Goodness knows when things like football or festivals etc will reopen.

Scary times

I have a suspicion that a vaccine, probably several will be rushed out. I'll have a punt at Xmas for mass production at the latest. In our hands not long after.

I have another suspicion that treatments even before then will become more and more effective at driving deaths down.

As you can see I have several suspicions.