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View DANGERCLOSE's Profile DANGERCLOSE Flag london 27 Apr 20 9.28pm Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It is worrying because these doctors are getting themselves involved in what are essentially political decisions. I am forced to wonder if they have a MAGA baseball cap in their lockers.

If, for the sake of argument, their statistics are accepted as fact then their conclusions aren't, in my opinion.

This virus is not like the flu. It is much more contagious but even more importantly we don't have a vaccine for it. Without taking the measures we have the health care facilities would have been overwhelmed and many more deaths resulted. It's only because those measures were put in place that the doctors can report their statistics. Without them things would have been very different.

Of course more people are dying who have pre-existing conditions that increase the risk. That's totally obvious and to be expected. C19 is what tips many over the edge but it is still the cause of death, whether or not these doctors want to regard it as so. Some of those people might not have lived much longer anyway, but the fact remains that C19 was the final straw.

They are quite right to be worried about other health issues being made worse by our response to C19 and this needs to be addressed. Not though simply by abandoning the good work that has been done so far.

The vulnerable will need to continue to be protected until they can be vaccinated. Everyone else will need to practice social distancing to keep the infection rate within manageable limits.

I think their presentation could easily spark a bad situation in the USA. I hope it doesn't here although I see no prospect of the government agreeing with their conclusions.

Good points

 


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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 28 Apr 20 10.57am Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Anyone who cannot see the connection between Gates / Gates Foundation, Imperial College, GAVI, DFID the BBC etc and the obvious agenda behind it is simply willing to believe what they are told. Exactly the same is going on in the US with Fauci. All the information is there if you just go and look.

What we are seeing is not a conspiracy theory but plain old corruption.


 

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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 28 Apr 20 11.02am Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Had a noisy s*** during the minute silence by the way.

What a weak non-society we have become.

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 28 Apr 20 11.14am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

What a pleasant individual.

 


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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 28 Apr 20 11.16am Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

What a pleasant individual.

Because being pleasant and nice today is more important than the truth.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 28 Apr 20 11.32am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by W12

Had a noisy s*** during the minute silence by the way.

What a weak non-society we have become.

Crass comment of the month

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Apr 20 11.47am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by W12

Because being pleasant and nice today is more important than the truth.

You can still be nice whilst telling the truth!

So here, very politely, is some truth for you.

Accusing people and organisations of unproven corruption can still be a conspiracy theory.

I have been told many times, mostly by my American friends, of these allegations involving Bill Gates, a variety of other players and the spread of C19 for devious purposes. Like you it seems they really believe it. Like most conspiracy theories it takes some established facts and then twists them into wild, and often ridiculous, conclusions.

So it is with this. This was alive back in January, before the pandemic had really caught fire. It's no wonder then that the conspiracy theory has caught fire too and is burning in the minds of the impressionable.

It has been debunked many times. Even in January the BBC published this:- [Link]

A conspiracy theorist will conclude that as it's the BBC, and they are "involved", they would say that!

I read the reasoning and conclude they are right.

I have heard countless conspiracy theories over the past 20 years.

I have yet to hear one that has proved to actually be true.

 

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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 28 Apr 20 12.28pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

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These funding links are not even hidden. Why is our national broadcaster being funded by foreign interests and supranational corrupt institutions like the UN? (which is in terms heavily influenced by likes of Qatar)

Just follow the money FFS

Nobody is saying this virus was deliberately spread by the way although at this point all bets are off.

I just love it how the libertarians and lefties play defense for neo conservatives and foreign powers with s***ty human right records. It's so f***ing dumb.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Apr 20 12.50pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by W12

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These funding links are not even hidden. Why is our national broadcaster being funded by foreign interests and supranational corrupt institutions like the UN? (which is in terms heavily influenced by likes of Qatar)

Just follow the money FFS

Nobody is saying this virus was deliberately spread by the way although at this point all bets are off.

I just love it how the libertarians and lefties play defense for neo conservatives and foreign powers with s***ty human right records. It's so f***ing dumb.

Are you for real?

Your link shows where the money for one BBC initiative comes from. You can read the objectives of that initiative on the website and they are entirely positive. It's little wonder both the UK and US governments support it, along with the UN and other philanthropic organisations like Gates. No licence fee money from the UK seems to be used! The total BBC budget is around £4 billion. This initiative costs £35.4 million. Less than 1% of the total.

So I suggest YOU follow the money. If you do then you will find it making lives better due to a British initiative of which every true Brit ought to be immensely proud.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 Apr 20 1.12pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by W12

[Link]

These funding links are not even hidden. Why is our national broadcaster being funded by foreign interests and supranational corrupt institutions like the UN? (which is in terms heavily influenced by likes of Qatar)

Just follow the money FFS

Nobody is saying this virus was deliberately spread by the way although at this point all bets are off.

I just love it how the libertarians and lefties play defense for neo conservatives and foreign powers with s***ty human right records. It's so f***ing dumb.

If anybody wants to pay me off, I will support them. Kim, Vladimir, some Saudi killers, The Chinese - are you reading? I'm ready for this type of corruption. Nobody is below the threshold of my support - as long as they pay enough.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 28 Apr 20 1.14pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You can still be nice whilst telling the truth!

So here, very politely, is some truth for you.

Accusing people and organisations of unproven corruption can still be a conspiracy theory.

I have been told many times, mostly by my American friends, of these allegations involving Bill Gates, a variety of other players and the spread of C19 for devious purposes. Like you it seems they really believe it. Like most conspiracy theories it takes some established facts and then twists them into wild, and often ridiculous, conclusions.

So it is with this. This was alive back in January, before the pandemic had really caught fire. It's no wonder then that the conspiracy theory has caught fire too and is burning in the minds of the impressionable.

It has been debunked many times. Even in January the BBC published this:- [Link]

A conspiracy theorist will conclude that as it's the BBC, and they are "involved", they would say that!

I read the reasoning and conclude they are right.

I have heard countless conspiracy theories over the past 20 years.

I have yet to hear one that has proved to actually be true.

How about the one about who is responsible for conspiracy theories? If a nefarious plan comes to fruition without anyone suspecting anything there’s no need for a conspiracy plan to distract attention.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Apr 20 1.21pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You can still be nice whilst telling the truth!

So here, very politely, is some truth for you.

Accusing people and organisations of unproven corruption can still be a conspiracy theory.

I have been told many times, mostly by my American friends, of these allegations involving Bill Gates, a variety of other players and the spread of C19 for devious purposes. Like you it seems they really believe it. Like most conspiracy theories it takes some established facts and then twists them into wild, and often ridiculous, conclusions.

So it is with this. This was alive back in January, before the pandemic had really caught fire. It's no wonder then that the conspiracy theory has caught fire too and is burning in the minds of the impressionable.

It has been debunked many times. Even in January the BBC published this:- [Link]

A conspiracy theorist will conclude that as it's the BBC, and they are "involved", they would say that!

I read the reasoning and conclude they are right.

I have heard countless conspiracy theories over the past 20 years.

I have yet to hear one that has proved to actually be true.

I do take what Bill Gates says with a pinch of salt. This is nothing to do with conspiracy theories but more to do with Microsoft business interests.

You only have to look at how Facebook and Google crumble before the Chinese and make whatever changes the government insists on. I would imagine that Gates is just as wary of upsetting the Chinese government.

 


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