I don’t think the British public would have stayed in and isolated unless the crisis had begun. It’s just not what a lot of brits do, as we’ve seen and see more and more now.

On the PPE. There should have been more and they should have got it faster. There never would’ve been as much as we wanted or needed though.

The lack of border controls was a very bad mistake. I wonder how many left wing hindsight merchants disagreed on closing borders on an ideological level.

Look, even private school teachers, head teachers and parents made the mistake of allowing pupils back into school, only to inform them not to attend the 2nd day. All over villagey bits of London there were people having coffee in coffee shops after a week in covid spreading ski resorts, bars and restaurants. They’re supposed to be the smart ones.

If you want to blame the government for not acting sooner then you probably have about 3 weeks as that is the time it seems we’re behind Italy or Spain.

Of course it’s a travesty nhs staff have died doing their job. If it had spread even faster than it did then at least we had the nightingale hospitals set up so that healthier people didn’t have to die because we weren’t prepared. But you just keep banging on about the same thing which you’re exaggerating anyway. The conservatives were not, are not, responsible for tens of thousands of deaths. You make it sound like local parks have bodies piled up ready for burial and Boris should be beheaded on tv.

You do know hes going to pull you up on your grammar now he knows your not a total momentum lover

in fairness he dont seem to bad I was called a nazi on the BBS for stating obama
destroyed Libya like blair and Bush iraq and then a commie for disliking Ian Duncan Smith and yeah they loved to point out my basic errors in grammar like gas engineers write novels or some s***. Somehow poor grammar invalidates your opinion other there

A fellow gas engineer at last. We dont have to spell, we sniff

Labour haven"t been in power for 10 years so we will never know! What we do know is the ex leader went big on the NHS all the time in charge, we have to move on to the government who have been in charge for the past 10 years now, if we are going back in time we might as well congratulate labour for creating the NHS, but we aren"t doing that either. I"m playing devils advocate on here, i might not vote again, or i might, certainly haven"t made my mind up either way, but do feel the need to call out die hard blu noses when they gush at how well the government have done, if you go back on the thread you will see Chryst saying they have done a BRILLIANT job, had to tell him his understanding of the word brilliant and mine are obviously two different things!

I got a mate who is a paramedic who states the biggest problem with the NHS isnt funding it's the management of how the money is spent by senior NHS staff. Says its suffering mainly because of being a political football and to much red tape from bosses that serve no purpose. After this I think there will be calls for the system to change. But again I worry that sensible debate will be thrown out the window and far left bullies will see any form of change as privatatisation and the alt right would say that if it wasnt for immigrants it wouldn't need to change.