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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 May 20 8.57pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wilesy01

Would you mind me asking why?

You're certainly entitled to an opinion but it doesn't make DC look trustworthy when he's retrospectively altering past blogs to try and prove a point! Especially when he's trying to appear totally above board to the entire British public.

Indeed if you're going to lie about that, what else would you lie about?


Because all the contentions, including yours here, are unproven.

You are assigning motivations without evidence. People make alterations to online documents all the time. The people who do it most often are the hypocrites in the press and they only publish for profit.

This was Cumming's own blog, not designed for profit and read by very few.

Cummings had written about pandemics and coronavirus years ago, which is true.....How many of his critics did?

Cummings made no such other claims.

Hence, this is, as I state much ado about nothing.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 May 2020 8.58pm)

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 May 20 9.02pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Are you sure about that?

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In any event, Sweden and the UK have different population densities and cultural behaviour patterns which will impinge on what the science suggests is the best course of action.

None of which is though actually the point. The point being that our government made "following the science" the central plank of their strategy in getting the public to follow the rules. They took the politics out of the argument and appealed to our desire to work together.

It worked! This stupidity though has broken that consensus. People will now feel empowered to break the rules because if "they" can ignore their own rules then so can I. Not everyone, but enough to make things much, much harder.

I wanted our strategy to succeed. I thought the government had handled it well. Mistakes were made, but that was inevitable in a fast-moving situation.

This though is an enormous error of judgement that will make ensuring that enough people comply with future requests very much harder.

It has nothing at all to do with any personal vendettas against Cummings, although he is clearly a very much disliked figure in many quarters. Rightly so too in my opinion but that really is not the point. The criticism is not addressed to Cummings but on the decision not to sack him. That's what is so wrong.

Your arguments/ opinions are not politically motivated at all are they

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 26 May 20 9.03pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Funny how 50%+ is now relevant, didn’t seem to be not so long ago

50% is always relevant.

So is if you get there through the manipulation of the voters by Russian based internet farms posting fake information.

There is no manipulation involved here. Just the facts being presented. Cummings did it. Johnson hasn't sacked him. Open, shut and reported.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 May 20 9.05pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Are you sure about that?

[Link]

In any event, Sweden and the UK have different population densities and cultural behaviour patterns which will impinge on what the science suggests is the best course of action.

None of which is though actually the point. The point being that our government made "following the science" the central plank of their strategy in getting the public to follow the rules. They took the politics out of the argument and appealed to our desire to work together.

It worked! This stupidity though has broken that consensus. People will now feel empowered to break the rules because if "they" can ignore their own rules then so can I. Not everyone, but enough to make things much, much harder.

I wanted our strategy to succeed. I thought the government had handled it well. Mistakes were made, but that was inevitable in a fast-moving situation.

This though is an enormous error of judgement that will make ensuring that enough people comply with future requests very much harder.

It has nothing at all to do with any personal vendettas against Cummings, although he is clearly a very much disliked figure in many quarters. Rightly so too in my opinion but that really is not the point. The criticism is not addressed to Cummings but on the decision not to sack him. That's what is so wrong.

Good. We’re now at a point where the guidelines or rules are a waste of everyone’s time and the economy. I made a point of watching the start of all the news programmes and if, big if, the very low number of cases and falling all the time was mentioned later on in the news, they managed to ask a doctor in an empty ward who went on about a 2nd peak on its way. Give it a rest.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 26 May 20 9.06pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

But they haven’t explained the science behind only meeting 1 relative at a time. Maybe he feels it is just a media witch-hunt and that Cummings doesn’t deserved to be sacked, but like the senior civil servants you defend so vehemently, making decisions that he believes are correct, I am surprised you haven’t mentioned Trump for several posts

They don't need to explain the science! Its enough that it exists and the government has committed itself to follow it. That's the key issue that everyone seems to be intent on ignoring.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 May 20 9.07pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

All these stupid restrictive rules in shops now could be replaced with sanitising hands at the entrance. If they’re going to limit numbers going in, they can insist on hand sanitising. All these stupid rules might either put people off or just gradually ignore them.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 26 May 20 9.08pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

What catastrophe?

If you don't think this is already a catastrophe for the government and as a consequence the rest of us, then I suspect you will in the next few days.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 May 20 9.09pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They don't need to explain the science! Its enough that it exists and the government has committed itself to follow it. That's the key issue that everyone seems to be intent on ignoring.

A lot of people thought a lot of it was bollox when they found out you can see parents from the same house outside, but wait for it, one at a time. It didn’t need Cummings for them to start going out and about. That started a week before and long overdue.

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 May 20 9.11pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you don't think this is already a catastrophe for the government and as a consequence the rest of us, then I suspect you will in the next few days.

How am I going to think that in the next few days then?

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Are you sure about that?

[Link]

In any event, Sweden and the UK have different population densities and cultural behaviour patterns which will impinge on what the science suggests is the best course of action.

None of which is though actually the point. The point being that our government made "following the science" the central plank of their strategy in getting the public to follow the rules. They took the politics out of the argument and appealed to our desire to work together.

It worked! This stupidity though has broken that consensus. People will now feel empowered to break the rules because if "they" can ignore their own rules then so can I. Not everyone, but enough to make things much, much harder.

I wanted our strategy to succeed. I thought the government had handled it well. Mistakes were made, but that was inevitable in a fast-moving situation.

This though is an enormous error of judgement that will make ensuring that enough people comply with future requests very much harder.

It has nothing at all to do with any personal vendettas against Cummings, although he is clearly a very much disliked figure in many quarters. Rightly so too in my opinion but that really is not the point. The criticism is not addressed to Cummings but on the decision not to sack him. That's what is so wrong.

They’re following their science. That’s the point; scientists can have different opinions.
The government have taken the decision not to sack Cummings so it must be the right decision as you’ve asserted in the past. Anyone not in agreement can wait until the next election to make their point.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 26 May 20 9.17pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I still think he will go.

Yeah the media have gone overboard, but when don't they?

Also there are key inconsistencies between his wife's account in the spectator and his account yesterday. Not to mention the 30 min drive to test competency behind the wheel – surely even the most ardent supporter of his would find that a little, how shall we say it, flexible with the truth.

I dont think he will. This happened a while ago so why wait until now. One word BREXIT. End of june its done and Cummins is a big player in it. The media have played into HMG hands. The bbc have literally stabbed themselves and might well have to wait for any help on the license fee. Ironically it was a 'great' deal at the time. Now they have changed the beads on the abacus the figures dont add up. Tough luck auntie.

 

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