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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 04 Aug 22 3.46pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Wilf literally stands head and shoulders above the rest. Not only is he a great talent he is also very well balancedÖÖexcept of course when tackled.

 

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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 04 Aug 22 4.08pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by fishbone

Get rid of racism from football then kneeling will no longer be needed!!

To my knowledge nobody has ever produced the smallest scrap of evidence that kneeling contributes to eliminating racism. That's why it's useless and not needed.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 04 Aug 22 5.26pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

To my knowledge nobody has ever produced the smallest scrap of evidence that kneeling contributes to eliminating racism. That's why it's useless and not needed.

Well said

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 04 Aug 22 5.33pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

No one can eliminate an idea.

It's like saying we will continue to do X until everybody likes socialism: It's absurd.

But it's not about common sense....it's about paying the wages of the 'diversity and equality' industry. They know full well what the game is.

It's a seemingly permanent cost that politicians have lumped onto industry and business for their short term political gain. They don't care about those who are harmed by it.....for example, the 16 back staff sacked at Yorkshire....totally insane but the government made that happen.....a supposedly conservative one.

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 04 Aug 22 5.57pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by tonymikejoe

I have gone from watching 100% of CPFC matches to zero since last season's re-start because the PL has become home to an extreme political agenda.
I didn't even know the Charity Shield was on yesterday until I saw the news afterwards and there were the players, kneeling and throwing clenched fist 'Black Power' salutes.
It looks like adherence to BLM will continue during the upcoming season.
Therefore, my boycott will continue.
Do you plan to watch or ignore?

I donít want to sound harsh, but a few blokes kneeling for 5 seconds ainít enough to keep me away from the Palace.
Plus on a positive note you get epic moments like Benteke hairing up the wing when they went to kneel then creeping back like a naughty boy.
Classic moment!!!
Maybe just turn up 5 minutes late

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View ambrose7's Profile ambrose7 Flag Croydon 04 Aug 22 6.20pm Send a Private Message to ambrose7 Add ambrose7 as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

To my knowledge nobody has ever produced the smallest scrap of evidence that kneeling contributes to eliminating racism. That's why it's useless and not needed.

Nor has anybody ever produced the smallest scrap of evidence that kneeling inconveniences anyone in anyway whatsoever but half this forum still have their knickers in a twist.

Until somebody comes up with a better idea, I'm happy for the players who are the ones actually getting the abuse every week to do whatever they think it is appropriate. At the end of the day, they're the ones getting the grief, not anyone watching it for 5 seconds.

 


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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 04 Aug 22 9.56pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by ambrose7

Nor has anybody ever produced the smallest scrap of evidence that kneeling inconveniences anyone in anyway whatsoever but half this forum still have their knickers in a twist.

Until somebody comes up with a better idea, I'm happy for the players who are the ones actually getting the abuse every week to do whatever they think it is appropriate. At the end of the day, they're the ones getting the grief, not anyone watching it for 5 seconds.

I would bet those who miss their train by 5 seconds or less might disagree.

On a more serious note, Iíd wager the notion that football is some sort of hotbed of extreme racism which is religiously practiced consistently and by every single person who finds it of any entertainment value, on screen or live, therefore they are a supporter of this fantasy and need to be demonstrated against and lectured to every time they watch a match, is slightly more jarring. Itís not a question of Ďinconvenienceí.

It also suggests that there is no other course of action for racist offences, which there is. The focus should be upon that and the serving of justice as opposed to thought conditioning of peoples. Itís a slippery and unerring slope no matter how righteous the message claims to be. Perhaps we should all kneel for the democratically elected Prime Minister, or democratically decided leaving of the EU, or face being outed as right or left wing extremists promulgating totalitarian ideologies??

Iíd remove racism from football if I had the power, and I would support any programme that seeks to eliminate it. I do not feel as though this falls into that category however. The original idea, the sentiment behind it and the value it holds for the players is of course worthy of endorsement. Itís apparent hijacking by some, the methodology and apparent acceptance of this plus the ineffectiveness of it in comparison to its now sinister air does not sit well with me and Iíd be inclined to believe others. I was under the impression that was our beloved sonís feelings too, hence his standing.

If Iím wrong then fine, Iíve no complaints with the kneeling and would wholeheartedly get behind it, if many who oppose do so as they are in fact very racist and angry, no I donít align with them (there are almost definitely some) however I doubt this applies to many questioning it.


 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Aug 22 9.59pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by fishbone

Get rid of racism from football then kneeling will no longer be needed!!

Until SKY Sports and the BBC started baiting people with this crap, there was negligible 'racism' in Football.

The increase in abuse online is a symptom of the internet society and has been made worse by all the coverage it has got.

Sky's obsession is purely commercial, and the BBC is infested by idealist Lefties.

 

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View nhp61's Profile nhp61 Flag Goring-By-Sea born, now in Brackne... 10 Aug 22 5.25pm Send a Private Message to nhp61 Add nhp61 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Until SKY Sports and the BBC started baiting people with this crap, there was negligible 'racism' in Football.

The increase in abuse online is a symptom of the internet society and has been made worse by all the coverage it has got.

Sky's obsession is purely commercial, and the BBC is infested by idealist Lefties.

Totally agree.

I've always thought that constantly banging on about racism only encourages more morons to be racist.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 11 Aug 22 6.53am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Iíd wager the notion that football is some sort of hotbed of extreme racism which is religiously practiced consistently and by every single person who finds it of any entertainment value,

I disagree. The racist side of football is practiced by a tiny minority of thickos

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 11 Aug 22 7.05am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I disagree. The racist side of football is practiced by a tiny minority of thickos

Oops, you've missed the point completely! Perhaps go back and re-read the whole sentence. He's saying the notion that every football fan is racist is what jars.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 11 Aug 22 8.03am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by YT

He's saying the notion that every football fan is racist is what jars.

I don't know who says that as everyone knows that it's just a tiny minority

 

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