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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Mar 21 5.34pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


I quite agree that we are rubbish and the style of play we have is clearly down to the manager. I'm neither particularly pro Hodgson nor anti him. All I was doing was correcting the post of someone (i.e you), whose (IMO) bias sometimes gets the best of him. You are not alone by any means. Such bias exists in both the Roy-IN and Roy-OUT camps, and I probably have my own biases that surface from time to time.

Fair enough.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 18 Mar 21 5.47pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Your post seems reasonable. I've plenty to counter but at least you're respectful in your posting and I'm tired of the same arguments. I've said my pieces and could easily argue forever. There's little point, we will still all be Palace at the end of the day. Whatever way we play, or whoever the manager is.
Surprising Roy is this divisive really. He's not that contentious a figure. That's worth considering, I don't remember particularly differing opinions over other managers. I suspect an age thing is part of it.

I've said it before, but to me the issue is not Roy per se. I think he is a lightning rod for a wider malaise. All my life Palace were trying to achieve this, establishing themselves in the top flight, but nobody thought it would be so joyless. Modern football blocks any challenge to the top sides.The glass ceiling is reinforced with iron. Leicester found a way in via the greatest miracle of all time, and fair play to them for taking lasting advantage of that, but otherwise the stable door is well and truly bolted. FFP prevents the next bankrolled upstart, whilst the poxy, godforsaken champions league and TV deals ensure the rich get richer every year. It just happens to be Roy at the helm when the realisation kicks in that we may not get any bigger or better than this.

I appreciate that others feel I'm overthinking it on this one!

Edited by TheBigToePunt (18 Mar 2021 5.48pm)

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 18 Mar 21 6.01pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

I've said it before, but to me the issue is not Roy per se. I think he is a lightning rod for a wider malaise. All my life Palace were trying to achieve this, establishing themselves in the top flight, but nobody thought it would be so joyless. Modern football blocks any challenge to the top sides.The glass ceiling is reinforced with iron. Leicester found a way in via the greatest miracle of all time, and fair play to them for taking lasting advantage of that, but otherwise the stable door is well and truly bolted. FFP prevents the next bankrolled upstart, whilst the poxy, godforsaken champions league and TV deals ensure the rich get richer every year. It just happens to be Roy at the helm when the realisation kicks in that we may not get any bigger or better than this.

I appreciate that others feel I'm overthinking it on this one!

Edited by TheBigToePunt (18 Mar 2021 5.48pm)

Think most people agree we are never going to be thr utds and arsenal's of this country but we can definitely get to the level of Southampton, West ham, villa, Newcastle, who all have their fair share of bad seasons but do atleast have a run in Europe every now and then, after 8 seasons in the prem I don't think asking to try and have a genuine go instead of just settling for bettering 3 other teams is too much to ask.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Mar 21 6.27pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

Think most people agree we are never going to be thr utds and arsenal's of this country but we can definitely get to the level of Southampton, West ham, villa, Newcastle, who all have their fair share of bad seasons but do atleast have a run in Europe every now and then, after 8 seasons in the prem I don't think asking to try and have a genuine go instead of just settling for bettering 3 other teams is too much to ask.

After finishing 7th in the PL in season 2017-18,Burnley qualified for the 'Europa League' in season 2018-19.

Maybe this didn't do them any favours as they only won 2 out of their first 15 PL games, we did the 'Double' over them and they finished in 15th place.

 

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Originally posted by rikz

Think most people agree we are never going to be thr utds and arsenal's of this country but we can definitely get to the level of Southampton, West ham, villa, Newcastle, who all have their fair share of bad seasons but do atleast have a run in Europe every now and then, after 8 seasons in the prem I don't think asking to try and have a genuine go instead of just settling for bettering 3 other teams is too much to ask.

completely agree - with a new stand we can get to the Wolves, Southampton, Leicester level - once we grow if we have a good season when others have a bad season and scrape into Europe it won't necessarily over-stretch us - and although many have struggled once they get into Europe (Wolves as well as Burnley), remember Fulham getting to the final of the Europa with a smaller ground than ours, although watsisface from Harrods was bankrolling them wasn't he, can't remember who their manager was who took them to the final!!!

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 18 Mar 21 7.13pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

After finishing 7th in the PL in season 2017-18,Burnley qualified for the 'Europa League' in season 2018-19.

Maybe this didn't do them any favours as they only won 2 out of their first 15 PL games, we did the 'Double' over them and they finished in 15th place.

Who cares, what do palace fans actually look back on and remember ? winning the championship against burnley In front of a record crowd and Brighton finishing 2nd, Liverpool semi, both fa Cup finals, Hopkins curling one in, freedman against Stockport, Hillsborough heroes, West ham at the millennium stadium, zaha away at Brighton in the play offs. I want a European run in with them memories.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Mar 21 7.20pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

Who cares, what do palace fans actually look back on and remember ? winning the championship against burnley In front of a record crowd and Brighton finishing 2nd, Liverpool semi, both fa Cup finals, Hopkins curling one in, freedman against Stockport, Hillsborough heroes, West ham at the millennium stadium, zaha away at Brighton in the play offs. I want a European run in with them memories.

Some of us somewhat advanced in years have memories of us competing in the 'Anglo-Italian' cup :

[Link]

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 18 Mar 21 7.20pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

Who cares, what do palace fans actually look back on and remember ? winning the championship against burnley In front of a record crowd and Brighton finishing 2nd, Liverpool semi, both fa Cup finals, Hopkins curling one in, freedman against Stockport, Hillsborough heroes, West ham at the millennium stadium, zaha away at Brighton in the play offs. I want a European run in with them memories.

You missed out beating Manchester United 5-1

 

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 18 Mar 21 7.28pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

You missed out beating Manchester United 5-1

Believe that result led to the sacking of O'Farrell,their manager,the next day!!
Fortunately,we have so much more tolerance with our manager when we lose 7-0 at home.

 

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View The Heath Eagle's Profile The Heath Eagle Flag Thornton Heath 18 Mar 21 8.17pm Send a Private Message to The Heath Eagle Add The Heath Eagle as a friend

Mourinho will be available tomorrow...

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 18 Mar 21 8.28pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Your post seems reasonable. I've plenty to counter but at least you're respectful in your posting and I'm tired of the same arguments. I've said my pieces and could easily argue forever. There's little point, we will still all be Palace at the end of the day. Whatever way we play, or whoever the manager is.
Surprising Roy is this divisive really. He's not that contentious a figure. That's worth considering, I don't remember particularly differing opinions over other managers. I suspect an age thing is part of it.

Pardew?

 

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Originally posted by Willo

Some of us somewhat advanced in years have memories of us competing in the 'Anglo-Italian' cup :

[Link]

Intertoto. One game.

 

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