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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 14 Dec 20 8.56pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Men, men and more men.

You have seen all the photo's from the refugee centres, the refugee boats.....its a massive crowd of men.

The BBC or similar will visit the Jungle at Calais and televise an interview with a 'strong independent single mother'' and what does she represent ? 0.001% of the residents at the camp ?


Twas ever thus, observe any of the crowd photo's from the 1950's and the Windrush generation.....a boatload of young men.

And before the usual suspects accuse me of racism, we get a similar scenario of white men travelling from places like Eastern Europe. Plumbers, electricians & the like. Many of these wire money back to the wife & kids in Budapest/Krakow wherever.

OxfordReference.com defines prejudice as ''Any attitude held towards a person or group that is not justified by the facts.'' And so to say that a predominantly male group is demonstrably 'predominantly male' is less prejudiced-opinion and more empirical-fact. No doubt there are many fine upstanding young men therein.

It does pose some questions :

- where are all their women ? back in the home country ? in a polygamous marriage or all single ?

- how will the fabric of society in Western Europe be if there are 110 young men for every 100 young women ?

- who voted for this arrangement ?

- are all these arriving fellas the remnants of a polygamy problem back in their home country ? or have they left a wife & kids behind ?

- are there villages back in the home country that have lost all their men ?

- has sociology proven a predominantly male society to also be a violent society ? From the American Wild West of the Goldrush to A modern squaddie town in the UK. Is London 2020 more violent than London 1920 ?

- The grooming gangs in the North of England, where were their wives, sisters, female cousins when all the mayhem was happening ?

- When the Goths, Visigoths & Huns landed on Rome...they brought their women with them. What would the Western Romans make of modern Western Europe ?

- 1946 Russia was a society of women, certainly any place near Stalingrad. How would that society compare to society in Sweden Today ?

- other


Please keep the discussion respectful with a potentially emotive topic. The main theme here is Gender Equality or the lack thereof.

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W12 14 Dec 20 9.01pm

Goes back to my point about democracy. Nobody voted for this, the majority didn’t want it but we got it anyway.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 14 Dec 20 9.04pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Windrush is celebrated.

There are good people within every group but we never needed mass immigration after the war and non European immigration has been nothing but a burden ever since.

It's a discussion that the progressives always try to shut down.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 14 Dec 20 9.33pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I notice there's another grooming gang case in the courts now and the press are happy to keep everything low key on the matter....following the deliberate policy of the government.

All based on lies about cases being thrown out.

 


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W12 15 Dec 20 7.45am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Men, men and more men.

You have seen all the photo's from the refugee centres, the refugee boats.....its a massive crowd of men.

The BBC or similar will visit the Jungle at Calais and televise an interview with a 'strong independent single mother'' and what does she represent ? 0.001% of the residents at the camp ?


Twas ever thus, observe any of the crowd photo's from the 1950's and the Windrush generation.....a boatload of young men.

And before the usual suspects accuse me of racism, we get a similar scenario of white men travelling from places like Eastern Europe. Plumbers, electricians & the like. Many of these wire money back to the wife & kids in Budapest/Krakow wherever.

OxfordReference.com defines prejudice as ''Any attitude held towards a person or group that is not justified by the facts.'' And so to say that a predominantly male group is demonstrably 'predominantly male' is less prejudiced-opinion and more empirical-fact. No doubt there are many fine upstanding young men therein.

It does pose some questions :

- where are all their women ? back in the home country ? in a polygamous marriage or all single ?

- how will the fabric of society in Western Europe be if there are 110 young men for every 100 young women ?

- who voted for this arrangement ?

- are all these arriving fellas the remnants of a polygamy problem back in their home country ? or have they left a wife & kids behind ?

- are there villages back in the home country that have lost all their men ?

- has sociology proven a predominantly male society to also be a violent society ? From the American Wild West of the Goldrush to A modern squaddie town in the UK. Is London 2020 more violent than London 1920 ?

- The grooming gangs in the North of England, where were their wives, sisters, female cousins when all the mayhem was happening ?

- When the Goths, Visigoths & Huns landed on Rome...they brought their women with them. What would the Western Romans make of modern Western Europe ?

- 1946 Russia was a society of women, certainly any place near Stalingrad. How would that society compare to society in Sweden Today ?

- other


Please keep the discussion respectful with a potentially emotive topic. The main theme here is Gender Equality or the lack thereof.

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (14 Dec 2020 11.14pm)

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 15 Dec 20 8.44am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

In pakistan there are many villages, which if you visit, the only males you will see are the elderly or pre-working age. This is because the males do emigrate for work as there is little work locally and wages are higher elsewhere. Thousands go to the UAE, many work in terrible conditions but feel it is a better option. Most of their income is sent home to support the family. These get the correct paperwork and everything is done legally.
Would I do the same? Absolutely

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 15 Dec 20 8.50am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Windrush is celebrated.

There are good people within every group but we never needed mass immigration after the war and non European immigration has been nothing but a burden ever since.

It's a discussion that the progressives always try to shut down.

This is an interesting article and something I was unaware of until I was working there. At the time the British government gave the Mirpuris the opportunity to work in the U.K. ( presumably like Windrush) many took up the offer but many more did not and were relocated to other parts of pakistan

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 15 Dec 20 8.58am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Isn’t it true that wherever there is a majority of men over women there is eventually a war whether it be an internal conflict or something bigger?

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 15 Dec 20 9.30am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Isn’t it true that wherever there is a majority of men over women there is eventually a war whether it be an internal conflict or something bigger?

I cannot answer that question fully, nor generalise from isolated incidents.

But certainly the scientists have found some interesting Gender-based evidence from the Bronze Age. Meet some of your ancestors.....

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 15 Dec 20 9.42am

I wonder what public perception would be if 90% of immigrants were young, fit Eastern European girls

 


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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

I wonder what public perception would be if 90% of immigrants were young, fit Eastern European girls

Your reaction certainly would be positive Tom.

Europeans haven't caused the problems.....though in general immigration needs to go in reverse.

But that needed to happen decades ago.


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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

I wonder what public perception would be if 90% of immigrants were young, fit Eastern European girls

Like nervous Harry Enfield in the daily sandwich/coffee shop?

If they were they’d probably be trafficked here. But while English women have been choosy and career driven until they realise they’ve left it late, a lot of English men have picked off a lot of good looking east European women who were probably looking for someone with good stable employment.

 


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