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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 19 May 21 12.45pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

close to the time of his death, Colonel Ghadaffi identified himself as the cork in the bottle , stopping legions of young men flowing into the Mediterranean.

he predicted that after he was gone, there would be a tsunami from the Middle East & Africa.

..............

But lets forget about the politics and look at your street,

how many Local men have you seen, this week, with a partner from those places ? and how many Local women with a fella from there ? Do the numbers of the two groups match 50:50 ? and if not, do we need more women from those countries ?

Prejudice is to hold an opinion that is not backed up by the statistics. Science is about observing the data and forming a true picture.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (19 May 2021 8.37am)

You can stick your science data, most normal people just want the law up held. It's not a big ask really.

 

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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

close to the time of his death, Colonel Ghadaffi identified himself as the cork in the bottle , stopping legions of young men flowing into the Mediterranean.

he predicted that after he was gone, there would be a tsunami from the Middle East & Africa.

..............

But lets forget about the politics and look at your street,

how many Local men have you seen, this week, with a partner from those places ? and how many Local women with a fella from there ? Do the numbers of the two groups match 50:50 ? and if not, do we need more women from those countries ?

Prejudice is to hold an opinion that is not backed up by the statistics. Science is about observing the data and forming a true picture.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (19 May 2021 8.37am)

The Libyan war turned out to be an utter failure.

Sure, they removed a tyrant in Colonel Ghadaffi and in his place split the country up into warring fractions who only recently declared a ceasefire. ..How long will that last....open slavery now exists there.

The western leaders create a mess and then just walk away...taking no responsibility for all their fine words turning into disaster on the ground......Europe then gets flooded.....and a couple of years later Syria and another flood......more fine words and bad endings.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 May 2021 10.47pm)

 


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View Sir James Hird's Profile Sir James Hird Flag Mount Martha 21 May 21 11.20pm Send a Private Message to Sir James Hird Add Sir James Hird as a friend

Three events I have seen in the media in the last 5 years have resonated with me and are deeply implanted in me.
The first in 2015 was the body of a small boy washed up on a beach somewhere in Turkey.
The 2nd a couple of months ago. This was in Yemen. A village in spite of all the fighting in that country had been able to restore their local school. They had insufficient teachers and little boy aged about 9, was helping out with teaching his fellow students. Oh, just one thing, the boy was BLIND.
The last, which sums up what a mess mankind is making of itself. The Moroccan/Spanish situation in Ceuta.
An infant child, floating in the water without mother or father rescued by a Spanish soldier.
Talk about what you like. men coming to UK and sending money earned back to his country of origin.
It splits up his family, his kids have no fatherly guidance. Its a petty whinge, not worthy of us Brits.
Its humanity at risk here!

 

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View kennybrowns leftfoot's Profile kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 22 May 21 5.51am Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

Originally posted by Sir James Hird

Three events I have seen in the media in the last 5 years have resonated with me and are deeply implanted in me.
The first in 2015 was the body of a small boy washed up on a beach somewhere in Turkey.
The 2nd a couple of months ago. This was in Yemen. A village in spite of all the fighting in that country had been able to restore their local school. They had insufficient teachers and little boy aged about 9, was helping out with teaching his fellow students. Oh, just one thing, the boy was BLIND.
The last, which sums up what a mess mankind is making of itself. The Moroccan/Spanish situation in Ceuta.
An infant child, floating in the water without mother or father rescued by a Spanish soldier.
Talk about what you like. men coming to UK and sending money earned back to his country of origin.
It splits up his family, his kids have no fatherly guidance. Its a petty whinge, not worthy of us Brits.
Its humanity at risk here!

But are they though??... In my experience I'd say the vast majority are not.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 22 May 21 7.01am

There’s an easy solution to all this.

Provide anyone who arrives at our shores with a council house in New Addington.

They’d soon fook off back to where they came from.

 


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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

There’s an easy solution to all this.

Provide anyone who arrives at our shores with a council house in New Addington.

They’d soon fook off back to where they came from.

Ahh the good old 'Addo' estate.. How I miss it!!

 


Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

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View Behind Enemy Lines's Profile Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 22 May 21 9.44am Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

Originally posted by Sir James Hird

Three events I have seen in the media in the last 5 years have resonated with me and are deeply implanted in me.
The first in 2015 was the body of a small boy washed up on a beach somewhere in Turkey.
The 2nd a couple of months ago. This was in Yemen. A village in spite of all the fighting in that country had been able to restore their local school. They had insufficient teachers and little boy aged about 9, was helping out with teaching his fellow students. Oh, just one thing, the boy was BLIND.
The last, which sums up what a mess mankind is making of itself. The Moroccan/Spanish situation in Ceuta.
An infant child, floating in the water without mother or father rescued by a Spanish soldier.
Talk about what you like. men coming to UK and sending money earned back to his country of origin.
It splits up his family, his kids have no fatherly guidance. Its a petty whinge, not worthy of us Brits.
Its humanity at risk here!

The media are very good at projecting what will tug on our heartstrings. Nobody wants to see the body of a young child floating in the sea after a failed attempt at a crossing. However, the father of this child would be classified as an economic migrant, not a refugee. He had left Syria and been in Turkey for about 3 years and had some form of employment. He had failed in his attempt to emigrate to Canada, where he had relations. His attempt to cross the sea to the EU (Greece) was therefore his perceived route to a better life and perhaps an onward journey to Canada. In addition, I believe he returned to Syria to bury his son within the week, implying that his homeland wasn't as dangerous as it had been. I am sure this is not an isolated incident, in fact I'm pretty sure that the UN once calculated that 75% of those attempting to get to the West were economic migrants. How do we stop those and allow true refugees a safe route?

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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Originally posted by Sir James Hird

Three events I have seen in the media in the last 5 years have resonated with me and are deeply implanted in me.
The first in 2015 was the body of a small boy washed up on a beach somewhere in Turkey.
The 2nd a couple of months ago. This was in Yemen. A village in spite of all the fighting in that country had been able to restore their local school. They had insufficient teachers and little boy aged about 9, was helping out with teaching his fellow students. Oh, just one thing, the boy was BLIND.
The last, which sums up what a mess mankind is making of itself. The Moroccan/Spanish situation in Ceuta.
An infant child, floating in the water without mother or father rescued by a Spanish soldier.
Talk about what you like. men coming to UK and sending money earned back to his country of origin.
It splits up his family, his kids have no fatherly guidance. Its a petty whinge, not worthy of us Brits.
Its humanity at risk here!

Unfortunately this is about politics. The Spanish are treating a Moroccan terrorist in hospital much to their displeasure. The Moroccans have deliberately withdrawn / scaled down their border force as a retaliation of course this means that the migrants are now risking their lives climbing over fences or even drowning.

It just shows how Europe relies on their neighbours and how the neighbours have now realised they have a powerful weapon e.g. Turkey.

Edited by Badger11 (22 May 2021 10.03am)

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 May 21 12.37pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

The media are very good at projecting what will tug on our heartstrings. Nobody wants to see the body of a young child floating in the sea after a failed attempt at a crossing. However, the father of this child would be classified as an economic migrant, not a refugee. He had left Syria and been in Turkey for about 3 years and had some form of employment. He had failed in his attempt to emigrate to Canada, where he had relations. His attempt to cross the sea to the EU (Greece) was therefore his perceived route to a better life and perhaps an onward journey to Canada. In addition, I believe he returned to Syria to bury his son within the week, implying that his homeland wasn't as dangerous as it had been. I am sure this is not an isolated incident, in fact I'm pretty sure that the UN once calculated that 75% of those attempting to get to the West were economic migrants. How do we stop those and allow true refugees a safe route?

I work with refugees on a daily basis. They are always popping home to do something. Even throughout this pandemic. Whilst, at the same time, saying their country is too dangerous. I wouldn't say all are like this - some are genuine. But 80% are here for the life, not for the reasons they state. I ask them, and many simply admit it.
One of the ones I work with just went over to Zimbabwe for a month. A place they have claimed asylum from. I found it rather ironic as it's been nearly impossible for me to go anywhere legally. But I guess they're used to illegal travelling and don't particularly care about 'our' laws, until it suits them. Talk about playing the system. The naivety surrounding 'refugees' is largely caused by the media highlighting the cases that you speak about. It's actually widely known that the kid's body in Turkey was placed there for the photo - it was staged. Yet people still lap it up, thinking they can somehow help. I guess it's just the human way.
Be as woke as you like, work with asylum seekers, I urge everyone to, even the most woke would see exactly what I'm talking about, probably within a week or two.

 


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Red and Blue Army!

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

I work with refugees on a daily basis. They are always popping home to do something. Even throughout this pandemic. Whilst, at the same time, saying their country is too dangerous. I wouldn't say all are like this - some are genuine. But 80% are here for the life, not for the reasons they state. I ask them, and many simply admit it.
One of the ones I work with just went over to Zimbabwe for a month. A place they have claimed asylum from. I found it rather ironic as it's been nearly impossible for me to go anywhere legally. But I guess they're used to illegal travelling and don't particularly care about 'our' laws, until it suits them. Talk about playing the system. The naivety surrounding 'refugees' is largely caused by the media highlighting the cases that you speak about. It's actually widely known that the kid's body in Turkey was placed there for the photo - it was staged. Yet people still lap it up, thinking they can somehow help. I guess it's just the human way.
Be as woke as you like, work with asylum seekers, I urge everyone to, even the most woke would see exactly what I'm talking about, probably within a week or two.

Yes, I don't doubt it. And every time a Government tries to control the situation, the woke mob get their protests and demonstrations going and it's the Government that are portrayed as the evil ones. Meanwhile another boatload turns up somewhere on the South Coast. Ironically, I had a friend who worked in the Home Office at Lunar(tic) House. He had great trouble when going on holiday to the US...his job took him to Islamabad many times and the stamps in his passport resulted in long delays at US border gates. Perhaps he should have eaten his passport on route.

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 22 May 21 1.55pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

the kid's body in Turkey was placed there for the photo - it was staged.

and anyway, to what extent does it represent an old oil tanker with 10,000 young men on the decks ?

 


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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

Yes, I don't doubt it. And every time a Government tries to control the situation, the woke mob get their protests and demonstrations going and it's the Government that are portrayed as the evil ones. Meanwhile another boatload turns up somewhere on the South Coast. Ironically, I had a friend who worked in the Home Office at Lunar(tic) House. He had great trouble when going on holiday to the US...his job took him to Islamabad many times and the stamps in his passport resulted in long delays at US border gates. Perhaps he should have eaten his passport on route.

Lunar House has been developing world famous since before the turn of the century. Oh and Eastern Europe before it joined the EU.

 


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