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 Teddy Eagle  24 May 23 9.06pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You don't think communications and travel are now easier? Being prepared to defend yourself isn't the same as waging war. Nothing is perfect but having institutions able to allow people to talk, or restrain aggression because of their size, is better than not having them. Not denying that but the post-A bomb world wasn't a particular era of peace, love and understanding.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 25 May 23 10.24am |
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The UN, the largest organisation since the end of WW2 to facilitate talk and avoid war has been a tremendous success.
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Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 10.44am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Not denying that but the post-A bomb world wasn't a particular era of peace, love and understanding. Nor is today's but imagine how much worse it might be without any efforts to establish forums and institutions designed to mitigate and encourage cooperation.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 10.51am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
The UN, the largest organisation since the end of WW2 to facilitate talk and avoid war has been a tremendous success. Compared to not having a UN it has been. Compared to a perfect UN it hasn't. Problems with institutions can be worked on and improved, but you first need the institution.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 25 May 23 12.23pm |
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It is not better to have a consistently bad thing in the hope it will magically get better one day. You have no idea what would have happened without the UN so that's a silly comment. Edited by HKOwen (25 May 2023 12.25pm)
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| georgenorman 25 May 23 12.25pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Nor is today's but imagine how much worse it might be without any efforts to establish forums and institutions designed to mitigate and encourage cooperation. We should use the money spent on numerous forums and institutions on the armed forces, that would do more to avoid war.
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| Teddy Eagle 25 May 23 1.15pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Nor is today's but imagine how much worse it might be without any efforts to establish forums and institutions designed to mitigate and encourage cooperation. Apart from Korea, Vietnam, The Gulf Wars, Aden, Suez, assorted African and Middle East conflicts and the current Ukraine situation it's been a great success.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 25 May 23 1.49pm |
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The UN cannot make you good, obviously. But I wouldn't like to be without it. 'jaw-jaw is better than war-war'
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| Stirlingsays 25 May 23 2.09pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The UN cannot make you good, obviously. But I wouldn't like to be without it. 'jaw-jaw is better than war-war' I like its work in feeding and providing access and help to the third world. Not the social engineering, but the practical humanitarian help is very important and something everyone can be proud of. As for anything else....errr.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 25 May 23 2.10pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The UN cannot make you good, obviously. But I wouldn't like to be without it. 'jaw-jaw is better than war-war' Marvellous, but what has that to do with the EU?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 5.09pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
We should use the money spent on numerous forums and institutions on the armed forces, that would do more to avoid war. No it wouldn’t. It would create more wars.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 5.10pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Apart from Korea, Vietnam, The Gulf Wars, Aden, Suez, assorted African and Middle East conflicts and the current Ukraine situation it's been a great success. I am sure someone has produced a trend analysis which demonstrates whether the incidence is increasing or declining.
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