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Originally posted by Runningman

Why bother asking ‘the people’. What do they know. Half of em can’t even tie their own shoelaces !

Well quite - that's exactly why public referendum on complex issues are a stupid idea.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A feeble response, even by your standards.

I'm not surprised that you'd rather avoid facts.

You've become a really poor poster - you just fire soundbites and hope it sounds credible.

You have not provided one fact, and as is always the case when I reply to one of your posts (see climate change yesterday), you have not challenged anything I've said in the slightest. Just deflect and hope no one notices the lack of substance.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 31 Jan 24 4.31pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

You've become a really poor poster - you just fire soundbites and hope it sounds credible.

You have not provided one fact, and as is always the case when I reply to one of your posts (see climate change yesterday), you have not challenged anything I've said in the slightest. Just deflect and hope no one notices the lack of substance.

Irrelevant nonsense followed by a personal attack.

You must be feeling really silly over Brexit now.

I don't need to list facts. They are all out there in the public domain, as you know full well.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 31 Jan 24 6.59pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Brexit checks - The greatest lie ever?

[Link]

This year it gets a whole lot worse, with some Brexit nasties people had not imagined creeping in.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 31 Jan 24 8.37pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Brexit checks - The greatest lie ever?

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This year it gets a whole lot worse, with some Brexit nasties people had not imagined creeping in.

And all in an election year when an opposition party, headed by a man who has a heritage of wanting to take us back into the EU, is up for election to number 10.

The fix is in.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 31 Jan 24 9.53pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

And all in an election year when an opposition party, headed by a man who has a heritage of wanting to take us back into the EU, is up for election to number 10.

The fix is in.

I'm sure a good chunk of the Tory Party would be happy to see Starmer move us back into a position to rejoin.

They want to fix a big blip they allowed in their ultimate quest for a European government and less democracy.

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

Brexit checks - The greatest lie ever?

[Link]

This year it gets a whole lot worse, with some Brexit nasties people had not imagined creeping in.

Yes, that must be why thousands are fleeing our shores in small boats to escape to the EU.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 20 Feb 24 3.02pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

GB News poll goes disastrously wrong.

92% polled say they want to return to the EU.

Even I would concede that is over-optimistic.

But it's interesting, do Brexiteers see it as a typical Express tory stunt or are they just p****d off with the whole issue.

Probably the latter.


 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

GB News poll goes disastrously wrong.

92% polled say they want to return to the EU.

Even I would concede that is over-optimistic.

But it's interesting, do Brexiteers see it as a typical Express tory stunt or are they just p****d off with the whole issue.

Probably the latter.


92%, so the other Eight viewers still want Brexit

 


One more point

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 02 Apr 24 9.44am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

A Labour Think Tank "Labour Together" is proposing that Starmer offer the 5m EU citizens in the UK full citizenship.

These folk already have residency rights so what would be the purpose?

Well for one thing they cannot vote in general elections but if Labour just made them all British citizens at a stroke of the pen you have 5m potential Labour supporting Pro EU voters.

It remains to be seen if this will become official Labour party policy.

A nice bit of gerrymandering.

 


One more point

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 02 Apr 24 9.54am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

A Labour Think Tank "Labour Together" is proposing that Starmer offer the 5m EU citizens in the UK full citizenship.

These folk already have residency rights so what would be the purpose?

Well for one thing they cannot vote in general elections but if Labour just made them all British citizens at a stroke of the pen you have 5m potential Labour supporting Pro EU voters.

It remains to be seen if this will become official Labour party policy.

A nice bit of gerrymandering.


Rather like ALL parties' policy in the House of Lords - create enough of your own ilk to get your laws passed.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 Apr 24 10.29am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

As the House of Lords has very limited responsibilities and almost no power at all it doesn’t appear to me to be worthwhile to create Peers just to get laws passed. They can propose, scrutinise and suggest amendments but the final decisions are taken in the HoC.

I would prefer we removed all the hereditary Peers and appointed Life Peers who are acknowledged experts in a variety of fields so they can examine proposed legislation from a practical viewpoint. This is even more important now, without us having direct access to EU expertise.

 


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