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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 12 Apr 24 11.06am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

It will be folk who are kids now who will write about the impact of Brexit after we are gone and an academic consensus will form. Our generation can only best guess.

I think that is a measured response.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Apr 24 1.46pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

'Confined to this little island: Britons criticise rejection of EU mobility deal'

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Immediately painted as freedom of movement (it is not), but a worthwhile mutually beneficial scheme, no wonder Sunak and Starmer have rejected the idea.


 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 25 Apr 24 2.03pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'Confined to this little island: Britons criticise rejection of EU mobility deal'

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Immediately painted as freedom of movement (it is not), but a worthwhile mutually beneficial scheme, no wonder Sunak and Starmer have rejected the idea.


Of course it is free movement of people - the Guardian article that you quote from is full of the phrase.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 25 Apr 24 2.46pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

I would be happy with this scheme and I am a Brexiteer.

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 25 Apr 24 3.07pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I would be happy with this scheme and I am a Brexiteer.

So what?

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 Apr 24 3.17pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I would be happy with this scheme and I am a Brexiteer.

Hmmm Many EU countries have a problem with youth unemployment meanwhile in this country big business would rather import cheap labour than locals.

I can see why both the EU and business would think this is a good idea but no the government is correct. Currently we have been striking bilateral deals with certain wealthier EU countries which the EU wants to stop.

I would not expect a huge number of young Germans flocking to this country to do minimum wage job but Spain and Greece with very high unemployment would love to, hence the EU deal.

The positive I take from this is that it is the first time the EU has come to us with a deal it is normally the other way around.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Apr 24 4.26pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Basically, the post-Brexit youth mobility deal allows Britons aged between 18 and 30 to live, study or work in the EU for up to four years.

It's easy to see why people are fed up with politicians' petty bile and spite.

They offer nothing but decline.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 25 Apr 24 4.31pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Hmmm Many EU countries have a problem with youth unemployment meanwhile in this country big business would rather import cheap labour than locals.

I can see why both the EU and business would think this is a good idea but no the government is correct. Currently we have been striking bilateral deals with certain wealthier EU countries which the EU wants to stop.

I would not expect a huge number of young Germans flocking to this country to do minimum wage job but Spain and Greece with very high unemployment would love to, hence the EU deal.

The positive I take from this is that it is the first time the EU has come to us with a deal it is normally the other way around.

Some local Herbert whose idea of a hard day's work is arising at noon and gaming all day versus a person willing and able to cross a Continent and sea to work.

Wouldn't you?

It is not just about labour price per unit.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 Apr 24 4.59pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Some local Herbert whose idea of a hard day's work is arising at noon and gaming all day versus a person willing and able to cross a Continent and sea to work.

Wouldn't you?

It is not just about labour price per unit.

No argument from me about the feckless however we have to get these people back into work. I don't doubt that EU citizens willing to do entry level jobs would work hard but we cannot import workers whilst paying our own to sit on their arse.

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 25 Apr 24 6.07pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Basically, the post-Brexit youth mobility deal allows Britons aged between 18 and 30 to live, study or work in the EU for up to four years.

It's easy to see why people are fed up with politicians' petty bile and spite.

They offer nothing but decline.


It is nothing more than dangling a bit of bait. We will be back in within 5 years. This is merely part of that wider scam. This actual proposal was pure spin but it achieved what it has set out to do which is put the idea of freedom of movement back on the agenda again, and aimed at the voters they will need to get out.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 25 Apr 24 6.12pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

It is nothing more than dangling a bit of bait. We will be back in within 5 years. This is merely part of that wider scam. This actual proposal was pure spin but it achieved what it has set out to do which is put the idea of freedom of movement back on the agenda again, and aimed at the voters they will need to get out.

Agreed, as Ernie Bevin said: “If you open that Pandora’s Box, you never know what Trojan horses will jump out.”

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 25 Apr 24 6.14pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The EU can go roger themselves roughly with a nobbily stick without lube. Bunch of failed upwards vastly overpaid gravy train politicians who are about as much use as ready meal in a crypt and half as wise.

 


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