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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 Jan 23 10.32am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Not trump, donít matter

Of course it matters, but so does context.

If Biden is found to have deliberately retained documents, concealed them and refused to cooperate in their return, itís a serious matter.

If it is an oversight by a member of his team, or even himself, then less so. As every CE does he carries the ultimate responsibility but it seems more likely that procedural lessons are to be learned rather than culpability established.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 12 Jan 23 11.58am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course it matters, but so does context.

If Biden is found to have deliberately retained documents, concealed them and refused to cooperate in their return, itís a serious matter.

If it is an oversight by a member of his team, or even himself, then less so. As every CE does he carries the ultimate responsibility but it seems more likely that procedural lessons are to be learned rather than culpability established.

That ok then, itís not the POTUS fault unless itís trump!
All about context and trump.
When it was trump you couldnít stop posting about how serious it was. One national secret or 100. Each one on its own could be very damaging.


Edited by cryrst (12 Jan 2023 11.59am)

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 12 Jan 23 12.05pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

That ok then, itís not the POTUS fault unless itís trump!
All about context and trump.
When it was trump you couldnít stop posting about how serious it was. One national secret or 100. Each one on its own could be very damaging.


Edited by cryrst (12 Jan 2023 11.59am)

I think what this has highlighted is how difficult it is to keep track of thousands of documents I don't believe that either Presidents have deliberately broken the law.

All Presidents have a a library when they are finished and just how secret are these secret documents?

Cock up more than conspiracy

 


One more point

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 12 Jan 23 12.16pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

That ok then, itís not the POTUS fault unless itís trump!
All about context and trump.
When it was trump you couldnít stop posting about how serious it was. One national secret or 100. Each one on its own could be very damaging.


Edited by cryrst (12 Jan 2023 11.59am)

You can't argue with an obsession.

From what I see most on here want equal treatment for, both Trump and Biden, one or two , however, are somewhat blinkered

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Jan 23 12.44pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Biden holds the secret to Greek Fire.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 Jan 23 1.02pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

That ok then, itís not the POTUS fault unless itís trump!
All about context and trump.
When it was trump you couldnít stop posting about how serious it was. One national secret or 100. Each one on its own could be very damaging.


Edited by cryrst (12 Jan 2023 11.59am)

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That depends entirely on how involved each was. In Trumpís case it appears he was deeply involved and this wasnít something done in error by staff. In Bidenís case that appears to be much less likely.

No doubt we will find out more if indictments are issued.

If either are culpable then I expect due process to deal with it. I favour neither. My only desire is to see a POTUS behaving lawfully.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 12 Jan 23 2.01pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

That ok then, itís not the POTUS fault unless itís trump!
All about context and trump.
When it was trump you couldnít stop posting about how serious it was. One national secret or 100. Each one on its own could be very damaging.


Edited by cryrst (12 Jan 2023 11.59am)

The difference. Trump resisted disclosure and the feds had to get back a court order and even after they found classified documents Trump denied they existedand shouted "witch hunt!". Biden opened his doors and apologised.

It may be that what Biden has is potentially more damaging to national interests. However perception is all and folk may believe Trump is the worst as he was the one who resisted most.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 14 Jan 23 8.38pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Biden being forgetful again.

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Jan 23 9.09pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

The difference. Trump resisted disclosure and the feds had to get back a court order and even after they found classified documents Trump denied they existedand shouted "witch hunt!". Biden opened his doors and apologised.

It may be that what Biden has is potentially more damaging to national interests. However perception is all and folk may believe Trump is the worst as he was the one who resisted most.

Only after the mid terms, he kept this under wraps for 8 weeks.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Jan 23 10.57pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Only after the mid terms, he kept this under wraps for 8 weeks.

Typical misrepresentation.

He had no need to say anything at any time. The Justice Department are responsible for handing the investigation into what happened and they also are not obligated to make announcements about an unfinished investigation.

Biden is cooperating. Trumpís house had to be raided to gain access, so keeping that quiet was impossible especially as he was shouting witch hunt at the time.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 15 Jan 23 7.22am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Wisbech - you are being one eyed again.
Trump's house was broken into and raided by the FBI without them asking for what they thought was there.
to my knowledge we still don't actually know that there was anything there as it has all gone rather quiet.
Biden is the President - he has no option but to co-operate but if Trump was guilty then so is Biden - fact!
What amazed me - on the BBC again - just two days ago was a Biden spin doctor not answering any questions but just saying that it isn't as bad as Trump's situation - that is their defense - pathetic!

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 15 Jan 23 8.18am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

The difference. Trump resisted disclosure and the feds had to get back a court order and even after they found classified documents Trump denied they existedand shouted "witch hunt!". Biden opened his doors and apologised.

It may be that what Biden has is potentially more damaging to national interests. However perception is all and folk may believe Trump is the worst as he was the one who resisted most.

The whole thing is political nonsense.

The Democrats started off using this political tactic and now want to frame who holds what using rules they make up.

If this was a reality in the past then every president and top official would be under the pump.

People only go with this waffle because of political tribalism.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jan 2023 10.17am)

 


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