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southnorwoodhill 29 Jan 21 10.41am | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
That's pretty crazy. It's a crazy world where many folk have convinced themselves that Croydon Roy's brand of s***ty negative football is essential for PL survival and there are no alternatives.
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Jacey 29 Jan 21 10.57am | |
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
It's a crazy world where many folk have convinced themselves that Croydon Roy's brand of s***ty negative football is essential for PL survival and there are no alternatives. Have my doubts that new signing Mateta will be in starting line up.Probably,over cautious bore ball will bring him on with minutes to go and in the press conference,heave huge praise on Wolves for their deserved win and wonder goal(s).
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Jan 21 11.06am | |
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
It's a crazy world where many folk have convinced themselves that Croydon Roy's brand of s***ty negative football is essential for PL survival and there are no alternatives. Of course there is an alternative way to play but one has to have the players to be carry out a style more appealing to the eye. There are those calling for a new younger more progressive manager.I would ask whether this person would suddenly turn Benteke into a goalscorer, would suddenly get our aged squad to run with greater alacrity and could inject the elixir of youth into all of them. One could proffer an argument that the aged squad will be replaced by young,vibrant players more able to play on the front foot and that a new manager will be better placed to make progress with a refreshed squad.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Jan 21 11.08am | |
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Originally posted by Jacey
Have my doubts that new signing Mateta will be in starting line up.Probably,over cautious bore ball will bring him on with minutes to go and in the press conference,heave huge praise on Wolves for their deserved win and wonder goal(s). I will be surprised if Mateta starts.
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palace chick South Croydon 29 Jan 21 11.11am | |
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Might be lucky and get a point but all I can see is another defeat. Now, if Hodgson changes to a middle 3 in midfield then we have a better chance. Can’t see him doing that though :-(
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Jacey 29 Jan 21 11.14am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Of course there is an alternative way to play but one has to have the players to be carry out a style more appealing to the eye. There are those calling for a new younger more progressive manager.I would ask whether this person would suddenly turn Benteke into a goalscorer, would suddenly get our aged squad to run with greater alacrity and could inject the elixir of youth into all of them. One could proffer an argument that the aged squad will be replaced by young,vibrant players more able to play on the front foot and that a new manager will be better placed to make progress with a refreshed squad. [/quote 4 Edited by Jacey (29 Jan 2021 11.26am)
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southnorwoodhill 29 Jan 21 11.19am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Of course there is an alternative way to play but one has to have the players to be carry out a style more appealing to the eye. There are those calling for a new younger more progressive manager.I would ask whether this person would suddenly turn Benteke into a goalscorer, would suddenly get our aged squad to run with greater alacrity and could inject the elixir of youth into all of them. One could proffer an argument that the aged squad will be replaced by young,vibrant players more able to play on the front foot and that a new manager will be better placed to make progress with a refreshed squad. I'm not so much bothered about the style, more that I can see a team that knows what it is doing, has a purpose for doing it, and does it with belief and heart. Pulis had it, he got that bit extra out of each player and they played with organised purpose.
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Eaglecoops CR3 29 Jan 21 11.47am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Of course there is an alternative way to play but one has to have the players to be carry out a style more appealing to the eye. There are those calling for a new younger more progressive manager.I would ask whether this person would suddenly turn Benteke into a goalscorer, would suddenly get our aged squad to run with greater alacrity and could inject the elixir of youth into all of them. One could proffer an argument that the aged squad will be replaced by young,vibrant players more able to play on the front foot and that a new manager will be better placed to make progress with a refreshed squad. Your suggestion is entirely based on the premis that Roy’s way is the only way this team can play. I along with many others suggest this is simply not the case. It has nothing to do with age or anything else, it’s to do with how a different manager might get this group of players playing in a more successful way.
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taylors lovechild 29 Jan 21 11.58am | |
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Tuesday was possibly our worst performance of the season. Even in the Liverpool game you could argue we were unlucky to find ourselves 3-0 down at half-time, but Tuesday night we played well for about 3 minutes and should have lost by 5 or 6. Was the absence of Ray significant? He certainly barks the orders during games and not Roy. Wolves always look calm and patient, which at times has seen them drop points this season. Somehow we have to stop their wide players as that always seems to be our weakness against them. Having predicted defeats in the last two games I'm going to be more positive and go for a 1-1 draw, with a workmanlike rather than an entertaining performance. Zaha to score again.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Jan 21 12.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Your suggestion is entirely based on the premis that Roy’s way is the only way this team can play. I along with many others suggest this is simply not the case. It has nothing to do with age or anything else, it’s to do with how a different manager might get this group of players playing in a more successful way. Supporters of course want the team to play with a bit more flair and inventiveness but in my humble estimation given the make-up of the squad at this juncture,Mr Hodgson's options are limited in trying to play football far more easy on the eye. Another manager could of course try to get the team playing in a different way, but we are not likely to find out for the foreseeable future. Edited by Willo (29 Jan 2021 12.06pm)
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Jan 21 12.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Your suggestion is entirely based on the premis that Roy’s way is the only way this team can play. I along with many others suggest this is simply not the case. It has nothing to do with age or anything else, it’s to do with how a different manager might get this group of players playing in a more successful way. I agree. I have several major bugbears to be fair. But my main one for the last two seasons has been set pieces. We were, frankly, a rubbish, yet big and gutsy team under Pulis. Guess what, off the top of my head no 1 or 2 for set piece goals in the Premier league. I think it was 15. We seem to only concede at least one goal from St pieces every match, and don't look dangerous at all. This is despite us still being one of the tallest sides and having a much better taker than we've had for years in Eze. It actually does my head in that clearly we don't see set pieces as a priority. It's a simple basic of the game. If you're poor in open play, which other than Wilf we are, then try set pieces. The amount we squander is ridiculous and the signs are there that we don't even practice. I'll nearly wager that Wolves have been working on corners as they won't have failed to notice how poor we are. Edited by ASCPFC (29 Jan 2021 12.05pm)
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 29 Jan 21 12.13pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I agree. I have several major bugbears to be fair. But my main one for the last two seasons has been set pieces. We were, frankly, a rubbish, yet big and gutsy team under Pulis. Guess what, off the top of my head no 1 or 2 for set piece goals in the Premier league. I think it was 15. We seem to only concede at least one goal from St pieces every match, and don't look dangerous at all. This is despite us still being one of the tallest sides and having a much better taker than we've had for years in Eze. It actually does my head in that clearly we don't see set pieces as a priority. It's a simple basic of the game. If you're poor in open play, which other than Wilf we are, then try set pieces. The amount we squander is ridiculous and the signs are there that we don't even practice. I'll nearly wager that Wolves have been working on corners as they won't have failed to notice how poor we are. Edited by ASCPFC (29 Jan 2021 12.05pm) I agree. We look useless with our own set pieces and vulnerable against them. I cannot for the life of me fathom what out attacking plan is and against West Ham we looked like conceding every time they went forward, and probably could have on another day, which isn't a one-off as we have seen. The grudge used to be that Roy's football was unattractive but it got results. Whether you were on the Roy in or Roy out side of the fence, or stuck on it, both these things can be said to be true. The problem for me is, that any effectiveness we had under Roy has now deserted us, our records are abysmal since the restart last year. Something has to change but I cannot see that happening trudging on as we are now. I like many hope and pray that it does get better, Roy or no Roy, but as mentioned I cannot see that happening and with vital games coming up you have to question at what point will the trigger be pulled and will it be too late?
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