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TheBigToePunt 01 Feb 21 12.26pm | |
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Howe should be assessed on his record as a manager rather than how he comes across on telly. He did wonders for Bournemouth when they were skint at the foot of League One, and ended up getting them up into the Championship on a shoestring. Thereafter, however, I don't think his results were actually that impressive when you look at his spending. In getting promoted to the premier league in 2014-15 Howe (or Bournemouth) spent so much money they didn't actually have that they got fined £4.75m for breaching Financial Fair Play rules. Bournemouth were happy to pay it as they originally expected to be fined £7.6m. In their five premier league seasons Bournemouth / Howe spent (and keep in mind this figure is after player sales) £133 million. Howe was in charge for all of this spending, they were all his signings. Bournemouth got relegated, with Howe looking devoid of ideas as to how to stop it. Our net spend over the same period is £56 million, of which Hodgson has had the benefit of about £25m spent whilst £50m came in for AWB. Not saying Howe couldn't do a good job for us, and perhaps he's learned a few hard lessons that he could put to good use at Palace, but frankly he'd have had to say something pretty fecking amazing on telly last night to make him a better bet than Hodgson based on a pounds to points ratio.
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Putitout Oxford 01 Feb 21 12.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Runningman
Fat Frank had the pick of some of the finest young talents in the world. Developed by an established first class academy (or bought in from other academies). He would not have this luxury at Palace. We are only now in a position to get decent youngsters into our academy but they will be 5 years or more in the making....
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deleted9 01 Feb 21 12.42pm | |
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Agreed with Howe been better in thought than reality. I have been impressed by Lampard over the last 2.5 years in terms of his professional approach, willingness to blood youth and play a ‘modern’, attractive style of football. He’s a chairman’s dream, especially Parish, who will be keen to see investment in the Academy bearing fruit. Furthermore, Jody Morris is held in such high regard with his coaching and work in Chelsea’s Academy which is arguably the best in the country. Having a link and potentially being able to attract youth from their setup would be appealing also. Another plus for me is that Lampard may be more relatable to players so are more likely to ‘look up to him’ having witnessed his playing career. Having that player-manager bond is key. I wouldn’t be opposed to Roy going ‘upstairs’ in a role that would see him support Frank initially. They have a mutual respect for one another and this could aid the transition. My final point is Gary Cahill who, let’s face it, won’t be playing much longer. If we could bring him into the coaching set up alongside Frank and Jody, all of whom have a link from their Chelsea days, he could be a real asset. Imagine him bellowing from the sidelines! In conclusion, Eddie Howe is not my preferred option.
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Badger11 Beckenham 01 Feb 21 12.43pm | |
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I would not want to be Palace's next manager I would want to be the one after that. Whoever takes over will have a rebuilding job and the chances are that the next guy will benefit. This often happens in football e.g. Leicester.
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Gary St.Andrews Kenley 01 Feb 21 1.00pm | |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
Howe should be assessed on his record as a manager rather than how he comes across on telly. He did wonders for Bournemouth when they were skint at the foot of League One, and ended up getting them up into the Championship on a shoestring. Thereafter, however, I don't think his results were actually that impressive when you look at his spending. In getting promoted to the premier league in 2014-15 Howe (or Bournemouth) spent so much money they didn't actually have that they got fined £4.75m for breaching Financial Fair Play rules. Bournemouth were happy to pay it as they originally expected to be fined £7.6m. In their five premier league seasons Bournemouth / Howe spent (and keep in mind this figure is after player sales) £133 million. Howe was in charge for all of this spending, they were all his signings. Bournemouth got relegated, with Howe looking devoid of ideas as to how to stop it. Our net spend over the same period is £56 million, of which Hodgson has had the benefit of about £25m spent whilst £50m came in for AWB. Not saying Howe couldn't do a good job for us, and perhaps he's learned a few hard lessons that he could put to good use at Palace, but frankly he'd have had to say something pretty fecking amazing on telly last night to make him a better bet than Hodgson based on a pounds to points ratio.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Feb 21 1.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 01 Feb 21 1.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Putitout
If we go down, it is by no means certain we can either: Of the 27 completed PL seasons (excluding the first season) Clubs that have had 2 or more promotions and relegations to/from the PL and are not currently in it comprise quite a list:
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silvertop Portishead 01 Feb 21 1.31pm | |
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Perhaps my memory is selective, but didn't Roy school Howe the last few times we played Bournemouth? Dyche is a fit (apart from the fact he probably wouldn't come). Howe is not.
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Putitout Oxford 01 Feb 21 1.31pm | |
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Putitout Oxford 01 Feb 21 1.40pm | |
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Originally posted by doombear
If we go down, it is by no means certain we can either: Of the 27 completed PL seasons (excluding the first season) Clubs that have had 2 or more promotions and relegations to/from the PL and are not currently in it comprise quite a list:
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m/k mick milton keynes 01 Feb 21 1.45pm | |
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Steven Gerrard i think is a good fit for Palace, at some point he will want to manage in the Premier, unlikely the top six or so would go for him, other than Liverpool in a few years time, so a mid table club would be his best bet, i have a gut feeling that he will manage us,
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TheBigToePunt 01 Feb 21 1.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Putitout
Thing is, does it ever actually happen that way? Far more likely that we end up selling any good young players we happen to develop to premier league clubs, as happened last time with Clyne and Zaha.
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