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deleted 25 Flag 01 Jun 21 6.14pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

In what sense?

Besides being a very good coach (which he is), people are romanticising this beyond belief. Thereís a reason heís out of a job and whilst nobody knows for sure, itís almost certainly linked with some sort of a breakdown in relationship between the Wolves hierarchy and Jorge Mendes. There were numerous reports last season of Mendes trying to get Nuno installed as manager of Villa, holding the Wolves board to ransom if they refused to carry on spending in the manner they had in recent years.

Wolves have spent big bucks ever since Nuno was appointed. They spent 35mil on a right back last season ffs. Even if we can give assurances to Nuno of funds for the upcoming season, it still wonít be funds of that nature and our owners arenít going to be plunging that sort of money into the club on a sustained basis.

If Nuno comes with Mendes, which he will, the politics associated with him are a recipe for disaster. Heís the number one candidate on paper. But only on paper. IF (and itís a big if) we can genuinely bring him to the club, itís not the utopia Palace fans are currently suggesting.

Edited by Mstrobez (01 Jun 2021 5.58pm)

So roughly speaking the 7th place finishes equates to 7th highest outlay on transfers?

 

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Steve parish must work quickly to get Nuno or Everton will pounce and that happens a lot to us with transfers .. Even with Dyche pay him the 3 compensation + 7 million to him , if it means staying in premiership itís a small price to pay , Brentford coming up itís worth 180mill to them from what bbc said , but like Iíve said my money is on Cooper as weíre so tight with spending and heís easy to sack if we struggle

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Jun 21 6.33pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by steveeagle67

Steve parish must work quickly to get Nuno or Everton will pounce and that happens a lot to us with transfers .. Even with Dyche pay him the 3 compensation + 7 million to him , if it means staying in premiership itís a small price to pay , Brentford coming up itís worth 180mill to them from what bbc said , but like Iíve said my money is on Cooper as weíre so tight with spending and heís easy to sack if we struggle

I very much doubt that Everton will be attracted to Dyche.
They might be attracted to Moyes and if so there could be a vacancy at W.Ham of course.

Tottenham,Everton,Wolves and of course us all managerless in the PL.
There might be more attractive jobs than the one at our club !!!

 

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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 01 Jun 21 6.36pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Every manager in the world is only as good as their players, and the players are generally as good as the budget. The issue is the way in which manages cope with having a distinctly average squad of players - some accept it and adjust their tactics accordingly (Dyche), some ignore it and aim for the stars anyway (Hassenhuttl), whilst some throw a massive hissy fit time and again until a parting of the ways is inevitable (Benetiz).

Fact is, we just don't know how Nuno copes with an average squad of players.



He won't be able to make them run any faster or longer, we'll need a few new ones, I'm sure that's part of the discussion, and the market may be depressed or offer a few bargain loop holes so offering a satisfactory 'war chest' may not be such an obstacle either. Nuno talks a lot about 'identity', and it might sound like psychobabble, but he has clear ideas on how to get the best out of a team so I'd have confidence in him to improve us. He had money to spend at Wolves, but he built a very good side very quickly. They slaughtered us up at their place in the autumn, only 2-0 but we were totally out-played. Having said that, he's probably only talking to us to signal his availability for the Everton job if Ancelotti leaves. more spec.

 

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View Mstrobez's Profile Mstrobez Flag 01 Jun 21 6.39pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by Vincehair

So roughly speaking the 7th place finishes equates to 7th highest outlay on transfers?

Not necessarily, no. Liverpool were arguably the best team in the world for the couple of seasons preceding the last and their net spend was nowhere near their rivals. We were nowhere near relegation despite having a minus net spend under Roy. Burnley are consistently low spenders and are swerving relegation every year. United have spent staggering amounts since Sir Alex left and havenít really won anything significant. Valťrien IsmaŽl, the guy Iím routing for to join Palace finished 5th in the championship on a budget of next to nothing. This could go on.

The point is this, Wolves arenít in the position they are as a result of "pluckiness" and defying the odds. They are where they are as a result of spending big and hiring a very good manager. But there is a reason that manager has left the club and even those with the biggest links to Wolves arenít entirely sure what it is. If it were simply wanting to return to Portugal as reported initially, he wouldnít be joining another club in England. If itís not down to that, and he joins Palace of all clubs, there is a good chance that itís political, Mendes is involved and as soon as the board refuse to bow down to his demands, heíll jump the Palace ship, too.

Whilst Nuno would be the headline appointment - that doesnít make him the best fit for the club. If he were coming no strings attached it would definitely be a coup, but he wonít.

Edited by Mstrobez (01 Jun 2021 6.41pm)

 


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View Elphers40's Profile Elphers40 Flag Northants 01 Jun 21 6.39pm Send a Private Message to Elphers40 Add Elphers40 as a friend

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Im just happy we have stopped talking about Cooper and talking about a manager with prem league experience .

Weíre on the same page here CT!

 

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Originally posted by Vincehair

So roughly speaking the 7th place finishes equates to 7th highest outlay on transfers?

my understanding of the situation was that mendes & fosun were in each others pockets as fosun own a portion of his agency, yes nuno is a mendes client, and his 1st ever client so they are close but nuno coming wont necessarily equate to mendes players following.

 


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View Elphers40's Profile Elphers40 Flag Northants 01 Jun 21 6.44pm Send a Private Message to Elphers40 Add Elphers40 as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Every manager in the world is only as good as their players, and the players are generally as good as the budget. The issue is the way in which manages cope with having a distinctly average squad of players - some accept it and adjust their tactics accordingly (Dyche), some ignore it and aim for the stars anyway (Hassenhuttl), whilst some throw a massive hissy fit time and again until a parting of the ways is inevitable (Benetiz).

Fact is, we just don't know how Nuno copes with an average squad of players.

Good post.

 

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Originally posted by Spiderman

We must assume that Jorge Mendes has been heavily involved in negotiations and SP is fully aware of what he brings to the table. Will be a master stroke but you just know Everton will hijack

Wrong team

Wet Spam, ALWAYS gazum us everytime, regardless of who we are supposed to be after

 


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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 01 Jun 21 6.57pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by Mstrobez

Not necessarily, no. Liverpool were arguably the best team in the world for the couple of seasons preceding the last and their net spend was nowhere near their rivals. We were nowhere near relegation despite having a minus net spend under Roy. Burnley are consistently low spenders and are swerving relegation every year. United have spent staggering amounts since Sir Alex left and havenít really won anything significant. Valťrien IsmaŽl, the guy Iím routing for to join Palace finished 5th in the championship on a budget of next to nothing. This could go on.

The point is this, Wolves arenít in the position they are as a result of "pluckiness" and defying the odds. They are where they are as a result of spending big and hiring a very good manager. But there is a reason that manager has left the club and even those with the biggest links to Wolves arenít entirely sure what it is. If it were simply wanting to return to Portugal as reported initially, he wouldnít be joining another club in England. If itís not down to that, and he joins Palace of all clubs, there is a good chance that itís political, Mendes is involved and as soon as the board refuse to bow down to his demands, heíll jump the Palace ship, too.

Whilst Nuno would be the headline appointment - that doesnít make him the best fit for the club. If he were coming no strings attached it would definitely be a coup, but he wonít.

Edited by Mstrobez (01 Jun 2021 6.41pm)

Or wolves just got too big for their boots

 

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Originally posted by eagleman13


Wet Spam, ALWAYS gazum us everytime, regardless of who we are supposed to be after

How much of that is down to West Ham paying the asking price whilst we dick around.

 

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View Elphers40's Profile Elphers40 Flag Northants 01 Jun 21 7.07pm Send a Private Message to Elphers40 Add Elphers40 as a friend

Dom Fyfield - usually not too far off Palace news quoted by HITC

- Speaking on The Totally Football Show, Fifield said: ďI would say one of Nuno (Espirito Santo), Sean Dyche or Valťrien IsmaŽl, any point next week.Ē

I would be delighted with any of those - hope itís right!

 

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