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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Jun 21 7.08pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

How much of that is down to West Ham paying the asking price whilst we dick around.

You put your 'dick' where you like, tho dont let certain posters on here know your intentions.

 


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View Mstrobez's Profile Mstrobez Flag 01 Jun 21 7.14pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

Or wolves just got too big for their boots

Mendes was instrumental in the owners buying Wolves to begin with so whilst itís possible, I doubt it. And if it were purely results based, Iím sure people close enough to the club wouldíve known.

 


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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 01 Jun 21 7.14pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Once Nuno, lost a couple of top men, last summer, and Jimenez, mid- season, he was handling a bang average team.
It wasnít going that well. And I bet he was pleased to see the back of it when the season ended without Wolves , being in more of a mess due to a decent first half season. . It if anything highlights the idea that any manager devoid of the service of three or four top, top class players to add to a workman like squad will struggle to get enough results fo comfort.
Nuno, can oversee some decent winning football , but if the second half of the season is to be taken seriously, only when the players are up to it. So without investment where would that leave us? Or Nuno, for that matter.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Jun 21 7.20pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Putitout

Once Nuno, lost a couple of top men, last summer, and Jimenez, mid- season, he was handling a bang average team.
It wasnít going that well. And I bet he was pleased to see the back of it when the season ended without Wolves , being in more of a mess due to a decent first half season. . It if anything highlights the idea that any manager devoid of the service of three or four top, top class players to add to a workman like squad will struggle to get enough results fo comfort.
Nuno, can oversee some decent winning football , but if the second half of the season is to be taken seriously, only when the players are up to it. So without investment where would that leave us? Or Nuno, for that matter.

He lost Jimenez and of course Jota was sold to Liverpool and these players had scored 42 goals between them in all competitions the previous season.
Doherty was sold to Tottenham and he lost Jonny to injury and these were influential players for them.

 

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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 01 Jun 21 7.32pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

He lost Jimenez and of course Jota was sold to Liverpool and these players had scored 42 goals between them in all competitions the previous season.
Doherty was sold to Tottenham and he lost Jonny to injury and these were influential players for them.

This was so, and it doesnít make him a bad manager, because things didnít go at all well without there input.
But it highlights that generally managers are not magicians, and in fact hang there best chance of real success on the ability of quality players,. Yes they need organising , but if the players can not go beyond a certain level, then adaptability can be the only saving grace. Hodgson, had that, does Nuno, ? The second half of this season gone would call that into question.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 01 Jun 21 7.38pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Mstrobez

Not necessarily, no. Liverpool were arguably the best team in the world for the couple of seasons preceding the last and their net spend was nowhere near their rivals. We were nowhere near relegation despite having a minus net spend under Roy. Burnley are consistently low spenders and are swerving relegation every year. United have spent staggering amounts since Sir Alex left and havenít really won anything significant. Valťrien IsmaŽl, the guy Iím routing for to join Palace finished 5th in the championship on a budget of next to nothing. This could go on.

The point is this, Wolves arenít in the position they are as a result of "pluckiness" and defying the odds. They are where they are as a result of spending big and hiring a very good manager. But there is a reason that manager has left the club and even those with the biggest links to Wolves arenít entirely sure what it is. If it were simply wanting to return to Portugal as reported initially, he wouldnít be joining another club in England. If itís not down to that, and he joins Palace of all clubs, there is a good chance that itís political, Mendes is involved and as soon as the board refuse to bow down to his demands, heíll jump the Palace ship, too.

Whilst Nuno would be the headline appointment - that doesnít make him the best fit for the club. If he were coming no strings attached it would definitely be a coup, but he wonít.

Edited by Mstrobez (01 Jun 2021 6.41pm)


I'm thinking the same. For me the best fit is someone who sees us as a medium to long term project and wants to make it happen. We don't want someone who's going to do an Ancelotti and disappear when a better offer comes along. Who the right person is, I'm not really sure.

Edited by doombear (01 Jun 2021 7.46pm)

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 01 Jun 21 7.42pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Mstrobez

Not necessarily, no. Liverpool were arguably the best team in the world for the couple of seasons preceding the last and their net spend was nowhere near their rivals. We were nowhere near relegation despite having a minus net spend under Roy. Burnley are consistently low spenders and are swerving relegation every year. United have spent staggering amounts since Sir Alex left and havenít really won anything significant. Valťrien IsmaŽl, the guy Iím routing for to join Palace finished 5th in the championship on a budget of next to nothing. This could go on.

The point is this, Wolves arenít in the position they are as a result of "pluckiness" and defying the odds. They are where they are as a result of spending big and hiring a very good manager. But there is a reason that manager has left the club and even those with the biggest links to Wolves arenít entirely sure what it is. If it were simply wanting to return to Portugal as reported initially, he wouldnít be joining another club in England. If itís not down to that, and he joins Palace of all clubs, there is a good chance that itís political, Mendes is involved and as soon as the board refuse to bow down to his demands, heíll jump the Palace ship, too.

Whilst Nuno would be the headline appointment - that doesnít make him the best fit for the club. If he were coming no strings attached it would definitely be a coup, but he wonít.

Edited by Mstrobez (01 Jun 2021 6.41pm)

Liverpool net spend isnt a good example, they are very shrewd in selling players £200m for Courtinho and Suarez, another £50m for Benteke and Sakho, another £40m for Brewster and Solanke.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 01 Jun 21 7.42pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Here is my thinking ( possible wishful)

Bruno Lage to Wolves
Pochettino to Spurs
Potter to Everton
Nuno to Palace
Howe or Lampard to Brighton
Cooper to West Brom

Edited by Spiderman (01 Jun 2021 7.43pm)

 

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View Plaistow Eagle's Profile Plaistow Eagle Flag 01 Jun 21 7.44pm Send a Private Message to Plaistow Eagle Add Plaistow Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Elphers40

Dom Fyfield - usually not too far off Palace news quoted by HITC

- Speaking on The Totally Football Show, Fifield said: ďI would say one of Nuno (Espirito Santo), Sean Dyche or Valťrien IsmaŽl, any point next week.Ē

I would be delighted with any of those - hope itís right!

Mate if itís going to be NES - Parish will need to move quickly with Everton now looking for a new Manager - like it or not Everton will be a bigger draw than us for NES if they come knocking.

The reported 3 days of negotiations will mean nothing - there ainít no loyalty or sentiment in top flight football its ruthless and mercenary.

Personally Iíd be over the moon with NES - huge step and statement in the right direction - but Iíve got a horrible feeling weíre going to get ďgazumppedĒ by Everton.

If that happens back to the drawing board and time we can ill afford to lose with so many players out of contract and a significant rebuilding job to be done.

Come on Steve get NES signed up..!!

COYP

 

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View deetee's Profile deetee Flag 01 Jun 21 7.50pm Send a Private Message to deetee Add deetee as a friend

Nuno or Dyche Two completely different managers. Either would be better than Lampard who failed with one of the best Chelsea squads in decades.

 

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View The_postman's Profile The_postman Flag Forest Row 01 Jun 21 7.59pm Send a Private Message to The_postman Add The_postman as a friend

I had a look on a couple of Swansea fan forums to see how they felt about losing Cooper. Seems a lot of them would quite like to see the back of him due to the boring style of play. Hmmmm

 

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View Mstrobez's Profile Mstrobez Flag 01 Jun 21 8.02pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Liverpool net spend isnt a good example, they are very shrewd in selling players £200m for Courtinho and Suarez, another £50m for Benteke and Sakho, another £40m for Brewster and Solanke.

Actually, that would make them the perfect example as to why net spend isnít necessarily synonymous with league position.

 


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