So Vieira in...

My thoughts (and worth fu*k all).

I'm looking at it in 2 ways.

1. Klopp & Mourinho had to start somewhere. Now we know that being a good or in Vieira's case a great player, doesn't mean you are going to be a good manager (Otherwise it would be Tony Adams or Shearer leading England out tonight and not there team mate from 96).

We can only hope that Vieira has learned lessons from his first few jobs and its been a good learning curve. Now he is back in the Premier league with his knowledge of the league and his contacts he gets us inspired and firing along with moving us forwards at a club.
Thats all we can ask at this stage. The whole manager search has been a joke and as I said in a previous post the main priority was a manager that actually wanted the job to start with.

2. Watching ITV last night, Keane, Vieira and Neville... they all have one thing in common... great pundits but are all there because its not worked out as managers. I was having a chat with a pal last night and I was saying I love Roy Keane and would love him as a manager but unfortunately for him he is from a time long gone and I just can't see him ever working with todays woke/Nancy players that have to be cuddled and have there way every 2 minutes.

I hope my first thoughts are what we get and that we have a great season next year with better football than we have had the last couple of seasons. As somebody on here said, lets hope Vieira sorts out Luka as I think there is a good player in there that has lost his way.
I also think Vieira might be able to get Zaha to not only stay but actually look like he wants to be there again which would be like making a massive signing... hey I can dream.

Interesting point(s). I don't think Keane, Vieira, and Neville are entirely comparable as managers, particularly the latter. While Keane and Vieira both aspired to managerial careers and followed a deliberate path in that direction, Neville was a wild-card; a businessman and TV pundit who got offered a manager's job in La Liga by a mate even though he was completely unqualified, and he had the arrogance to take it. He learned the hard way that management is more than just knowing potential tactics in his short, disastrous, reign so comparing him to Keane and Vieira is insulting to them. They're both managers; Neville was a dilettante.

Between Keane and Vieira there are some similarities. Neither demanded a big job to start their careers. Both have been willing to prove themselves at less glamorous destinations. Keane has had some success as a boss, albeit limited. His downfall appears to have been his personality; he couldn't get out of his own way. The problem wasn't his coaching or tactics. As a result of his personality, he's unlikely to manage the game.

Vieira has not had similar problems so far as I know. He's simply never had a high profile job so we don't know that much about him as a manager (I assume most of us don't follow MSL or French football overly closely). But there's nothing in his record to suggest he's unfit to be given a chance to manage a club like Palace.

To say Vieira is now a pundit because "his management career hasn't worked out" is both harsh and wrong. His management career has barely started and it's been at least reasonably successful so far. He's not had Roy Keane's difficulties, and nothing at all like Gary Neville's.

Thanks. Nice to see I'm not the only one who thinks this.