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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 07 May 21 8.51pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey


To see the usual idiots clamouring for a push back to the far left... sigh, it's just depressing. We need some actual opposition in this country. Not a party that jumps on the latest identity politics social media meme, and not one that would make Chavez and Castro blush.

This battle between the Far Left and the (supposed) Right of the Labour party is nothing more than political onanism.

As your photograph so graphically shows, the wider problem is exactly that. Who is going to want a party that goes down so easily on its knees for foreign Marxists?

Were there any senior/serious Labour politicians who did not go down on their knees? Are there senior/serious Labour politicians who will resist such lunacy as believing women should not be called "expectant mothers" as it could offend transgender people? Can any senior/serious Labour politicians make a pretty basic statement such as 'British jobs for British workers?'.

And if they can voice such opinions, can they actually get any proposals based around that through Labour conferences?

The blight in Labour is not about Corbyn or Starmer. It is about identity dogma. And they are all cultists to it. Which ain't changing, any time soon.

 


In 1967, when Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take human life, replied: "I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed communists."

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 08 May 21 12.06am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Conventional wisdom = This is Boris' Falklands moment = He wins next election easily = Labour lurches to the Left in a repeat of Corbyn = End of Labour party

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 08 May 21 6.32am Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

I wanted to vote SNP but they didn't put up anyone in Maidstone.

 


Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 08 May 21 10.08am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

I wanted to vote SNP but they didn't put up anyone in Maidstone.

Agreed I think the SNP would pick up quite a few votes in England.

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 08 May 21 7.14pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

So Keir Starmer takes responsibility by....sacking Angela Rayner. LOL. f***ing beautiful.

 


In 1967, when Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take human life, replied: "I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed communists."

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 08 May 21 8.34pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Labour could turn this around quite quickly with good policies, but the leader had none, and must go.

The tories have not done all that well, they only have a by-election win in an untypical constituency with a dismal turnout, and despite the numbers, only won control of 11 councils.

Big win for labour in Wales.

SNP in Scotland and majority independence support.

Khan about to be re-elected in London, Manchester and Liverpool labour.

Starmer has been a disaster, strange he seemed such an experienced able politician, but he just doesn't get any of it, impervious to any reason or constructive criticism.

Resign Sir Keir, and let the movement have a new leader and direction.

 

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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag The Big Wide World 08 May 21 8.51pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Agreed I think the SNP would pick up quite a few votes in England.

Too right. There's plenty of English who couldn't give a toss if Scotland went solo.

It would be interesting to see how long they could afford free prescriptions and no university tuition fees when they have to fund it themselves.

 

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View AuntyAnne70's Profile AuntyAnne70 Flag Tunbridge WElls 08 May 21 9.04pm Send a Private Message to AuntyAnne70 Add AuntyAnne70 as a friend

Why is Johnson so against them leaving then?

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 08 May 21 9.20pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

The tories have not done all that well, they only have a by-election win in an untypical constituency with a dismal turnout, and despite the numbers, only won control of 11 councils.

LOL. Thats beautiful.

 


In 1967, when Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take human life, replied: "I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed communists."

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 08 May 21 9.29pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

Why is Johnson so against them leaving then?

Legacy. Its a bit rum for a leader of the Conservative and Union party to lose Scotland on their watch.

Apparently, the wider HMG apparatus are also concerned about losing the Nuclear submarine base as well. The Navy love it because it allows their subs to go deep very very quickly meaning they are almost impossible to track when they leave their bases. They could switch it to a base in Wales but it would cause all kinds of problems.

But Scotland is not going to vote for leave. If you look at what the SNP are after, it is not necessarily a referendum but rather to have the power to call one.

Personally, I would rather their bluff was called and another referendum held because I would be doubly confident of Scotland voting no but it won't happen.

If it does, and the SNP lose, then I reckon Labour might start gaining back seats. The entire SNP brand is based around its supposed claims for independence which allows it to cloud just how s*** it actually is at running things. Plus they are always useful for raising the spectre of a Labour coalition with them.

So the Tories get to keep control in Westminster and the SNP get to hide behind plenty of flag-waving and kilt-wearing thus avoiding the really hard questions about Scotlands shocking level of drug-related deaths and numerous other issues.


Win-Win.

 


In 1967, when Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take human life, replied: "I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed communists."

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Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

Why is Johnson so against them leaving then?

Because it's the Conservative and Unionist Party. Next you'll be saying that people in the Labour Party don't like the working class oh wait...

 


One more point

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 08 May 21 9.35pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Labour could turn this around quite quickly with good policies, but the leader had none, and must go.

The tories have not done all that well, they only have a by-election win in an untypical constituency with a dismal turnout, and despite the numbers, only won control of 11 councils.

Big win for labour in Wales.

SNP in Scotland and majority independence support.

Khan about to be re-elected in London, Manchester and Liverpool labour.

Starmer has been a disaster, strange he seemed such an experienced able politician, but he just doesn't get any of it, impervious to any reason or constructive criticism.

Resign Sir Keir, and let the movement have a new leader and direction.


You have a great sense of humour. Tories been in power since 2010, major pandemic, job losses mid term elections. Labour should have wiped the floor with them on Thursday.

 


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