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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Jul 21 12.27am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by sickboy

Not good enough willo.

We should have won it.
We had a goal headstart and the managers inadequacy threw it away.
Unforgivable.
Especially second time round

I agree we just weren't good enough tonight.

Could not string passes together for long periods and we were pushed deep on to the back foot by a team whose movement caused us problems.
They moved the ball well,found pockets of space and showed their quality.
The substitutions did not work at all and I suspect Southgate will face criticism from various sources.

 

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View kevlee's Profile kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 12 Jul 21 12.37am Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

The epitaph for Euro 2020 will be
‘ Southgate is a tosser’

 


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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 12 Jul 21 12.39am Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

You can't blame Southgate for missing penalties , these players are paid lot's of money to score from the spot .
What I am disappointed about is , the way our player once they got there medals they took them off straight away . These player although are disappointed have achieved more than our England team have in the last 50 odd years and should be proud of what they have got and done .

 

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View sickboy's Profile sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 12 Jul 21 12.41am Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I agree we just weren't good enough tonight.

Could not string passes together for long periods and we were pushed deep on to the back foot by a team whose movement caused us problems.
They moved the ball well,found pockets of space and showed their quality.
The substitutions did not work at all and I suspect Southgate will face criticism from various sources.

The only convincing win was against Ukraine .
And it should have been much more convincing as they were as close to rubbish as you will get in a knockout round.
I'm not lieing but I have predicted, and got right, every England result and performance in the knockout rounds.
My sons betting slips will prove it.
( cheapskate didn't put enough on)
We need a proper manager to take advantage of the talent we have.

 

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View sickboy's Profile sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 12 Jul 21 12.44am Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

Originally posted by Fatherken

You can't blame Southgate for missing penalties , these players are paid lot's of money to score from the spot .
What I am disappointed about is , the way our player once they got there medals they took them off straight away . These player although are disappointed have achieved more than our England team have in the last 50 odd years and should be proud of what they have got and done .

Not good enough.
The blame is at Southgates feet again.
We would be champions if you swapped the managers round.

 

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View kevlee's Profile kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 12 Jul 21 12.45am Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

We were out manoeuvred and out played. You can’t win anything with kids. Wise words.

 


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View Ouzo Dan's Profile Ouzo Dan 12 Jul 21 12.48am Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Originally posted by Fatherken

You can't blame Southgate for missing penalties , these players are paid lot's of money to score from the spot .
What I am disappointed about is , the way our player once they got there medals they took them off straight away . These player although are disappointed have achieved more than our England team have in the last 50 odd years and should be proud of what they have got and done .

But you can blame him for subbing on two of our penalty takers in the 120th minute who then both went on to not have a touch of the ball before being expected to win a European championship.
You can also blame him for the suicidal sit back & defend tactics of the 2nd half.
Honestly that 2nd half is the most Palace/Hodgson thing I've seen since wel... Palace & Hodgson it was always doomed to failure.

Southgate as a coach/manager is a colossal melt but he will be heralded as a hero

 


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View sickboy's Profile sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 12 Jul 21 12.51am Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

But you can blame him for subbing on two of our penalty takers in the 120th minute who then both went on to not have a touch of the ball before being expected to win a European championship.
You can also blame him for the suicidal sit back & defend tactics of the 2nd half.
Honestly that 2nd half is the most Palace/Hodgson thing I've seen since wel... Palace & Hodgson it was always doomed to failure.

Southgate as a coach/manager is a colossal melt but he will be heralded as a hero

This.

 

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jeeagles Flag 12 Jul 21 12.58am

Very disappointed but didn't think we were going to win.

Italy undefeated in 3 years and we run them close.

There's a discussion Italy should have had two reds, potential penalty and their goal shouldn't have stood as the ref was a bottle job who didn't want to make a big call in a major final.

Ultimately you have to play the whistle and they probably would have scored at some point.

Their strikers have around 60 goals between them and pressed really well. Their centre backs were colossal. You could describe them as whiley seasoned pro's (often referred to as c***s by opposition fans). They reminded me of Delaney and Rambo in When Eagles Dare.

Kane doesn't work hard enough in defense, I don't really see what Mount adds. Rashford f***ed up that penalty.

In the last two tournaments their are things that Southgate could have done better. But a Semi and a Final have restored national pride. In the majority of tournaments since '66 England have been a s*** show. There are faults, but there will always be some faults - in the last two completions we've exceeded expectations.

Roll on the world cup

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 12 Jul 21 12.59am

Originally posted by Fatherken

You can't blame Southgate for missing penalties , these players are paid lot's of money to score from the spot .
What I am disappointed about is , the way our player once they got there medals they took them off straight away . These player although are disappointed have achieved more than our England team have in the last 50 odd years and should be proud of what they have got and done .

When it gets to penalties anything can happen really. I feel for those who missed, it's a heavy burden to take home after the game. You could repeat pens ten times and I doubt they'd be much commonality between them. A real crap shoot. We needed to kill the game off in normal time.

I do think we need to factor in what we've achieved and push forward though, as you say. Only one team can win the competition, it's not like we're s*** unless it's us. There's plenty to take from this, it's just hard in the aftermath.

 

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View sickboy's Profile sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 12 Jul 21 1.01am Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

Originally posted by Fatherken

You can't blame Southgate for missing penalties , these players are paid lot's of money to score from the spot .
What I am disappointed about is , the way our player once they got there medals they took them off straight away . These player although are disappointed have achieved more than our England team have in the last 50 odd years and should be proud of what they have got and done .

Poor post in defence of a poor manager.
It should never have gone to penalties.
We should have put it away in the first half.
We effectively had a one nil lead from kick off , and yet again he failed.
I'm seething.
We could be world champs, and should be euro champions.
If Abramovich was head of the FA and not Chelsea, he would be gone in the morning, and the search would be on for the best successor money could buy( without ffp restrictions).

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 12 Jul 21 1.05am

Originally posted by jeeagles

Very disappointed but didn't think we were going to win.

Italy undefeated in 3 years and we run them close.

Yes that's a point worth stating. They're quality opposition there can be no denying that. We held our own at times, but always seem to lack the killer instant when it counts. We can't afford to leave anything to chance, as we see where it gets us. If we'd got a second I expect we'd have pushed on, but inevitably with England the tentative play takes centre stage once they're ahead, and inevitably the price is eventually paid for that.

 

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