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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Jul 21 3.09pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


These were the nominations. Regardless of why the choice was made the others aren’t particularly inspiring either.

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A whole lot of people who almost no one cares about.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jul 21 3.15pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A whole lot of people who almost no one cares about.

Clearly, British artists needn't apply.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 16 Jul 21 3.53pm Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A whole lot of people who almost no one cares about.

850 transwomen, most of whom are sex workers. This is a loud minority wishing to thrust (if that is the right word) their 'cultural choices' on a still largely socially conservative population.

 

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apart from Oliver Cromwell, here is a statue to another fella who pushed a genocide in Ireland.

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Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Jul 21 10.44pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Because you would trust their word on the subject?

Why do you keep using words like prejudice and bias when you know that there is no such thing as unbiased or unprejudiced?
You just talk meaningless tosh designed to obfuscate the awkward truth.

You would have to decide if you trusted them after you had heard them. We haven't, so we cannot. You, of course, can as you always know what others think.

Whilst we all have our own perspectives, some of us are more able than others to look at things in a detached way and are able to make objective judgements. Sadly, you are not. Your prejudices and biases dominate all you ever say.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Jul 21 10.53pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A whole lot of people who almost no one cares about.

It isn't about whether people care about the person whose work is on display.

From what I understand, it is intended to be controversial, challenging and thought-provoking.

Given the debate in this little space, I think even you would have to concede that it has succeeded. If it does so in the wider world, then the decision of the Commission will be seen to have been a good one.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 16 Jul 21 11.31pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It isn't about whether people care about the person whose work is on display.

From what I understand, it is intended to be controversial, challenging and thought-provoking.

Given the debate in this little space, I think even you would have to concede that it has succeeded. If it does so in the wider world, then the decision of the Commission will be seen to have been a good one.

The thought that’s been provoked is resentment that a tourist attraction is being used as an opportunity to point out how racist we are as a country.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Jul 21 6.04am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There could be many reasons which, unless we heard them from those making the decisions, it is impossible to reach an opinion on. Don't though let that get in the way of you trotting out your usual biases and prejudices, which you routinely lay bare. Rarely though quite as clearly as in this last response.

You use bias and prejudice in your arguments.
It's just that yours are different to others.
Look at trump for that example of yours'
You aren't whiter than white WE not by a long shot.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jul 21 6.23am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It isn't about whether people care about the person whose work is on display.

From what I understand, it is intended to be controversial, challenging and thought-provoking.

Given the debate in this little space, I think even you would have to concede that it has succeeded. If it does so in the wider world, then the decision of the Commission will be seen to have been a good one.

Causing debate isn’t the issue. What would be more controversial - a statue of Donald Trump or one of someone for whom any criticism can be dismissed as racism?

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 21 8.22am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The thought that’s been provoked is resentment that a tourist attraction is being used as an opportunity to point out how racist we are as a country.

In some minds, perhaps, but surely it's better to confront it than hide it?

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 21 8.31am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

You use bias and prejudice in your arguments.
It's just that yours are different to others.
Look at trump for that example of yours'
You aren't whiter than white WE not by a long shot.

That you think I have bias and prejudice about Trump says a great deal more about your own attitude than it does about mine. For my view is held by the vast majority and is plainly justified by Trump's behaviour. If evidence exists, then bias does not.

That we all have our own approaches, formed by our experiences and values, is clearly true, but that is not the same as being prejudiced. Prejudice is to hold an unreasonable attitude. One not supported by evidence.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 21 8.33am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Causing debate isn’t the issue. What would be more controversial - a statue of Donald Trump or one of someone for whom any criticism can be dismissed as racism?

I have no idea, but both would create a lively debate.

 


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