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View Behind Enemy Lines's Profile Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 07 Jan 22 12.43pm Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Yep, I found it amusing that the BBC’s own Favourite (Alex Scott), has direct ancestors who owned slaves. Who do you think you are uncovered the fact in her own family tree. Slightly awkward.


Wonder if they’ve checked their family trees for any slave related misdemeanours? Not an issue for us peasants but who knows what lurks in their histories?

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 07 Jan 22 1.05pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Steeleye - whatever this man and thousands of others did back 300 odd years ago should not mean that the law can be broken today.
There will not be a person on this forum who thinks that slavery was a good thing to have happened but it was what it was back then sadly.
This man made his money in an inappropriate way for sure but back then it was the way of the world but at the same time he was at least philanthropic in Bristol.
Maybe his statue should not have still been up but there are ways to about things and so go through due process and get it removed.
The way that this was done by a load of woke Hooray Henry's
whose Mummy and Daddy pay for them to do what they want does not make it right.
There is a strong chance now that the Attorney General will now call a mistrial so that theses w*****s get what they deserve.
Love to see how Milo Ponsford would get on behind bars!

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 07 Jan 22 1.12pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Its shameful that there could ever have been a statue to this trafficker in human flesh.

The prosecution were saying Colsons wealth was based on the enslavement of 84,000 men, women and children was immaterial. As was the fact that he was complicit in the deaths of 19,000 of them, who died, squirming in agony, chained to the decks of the Royal African Company’s slave ships.

How Bristol could depict otherwise for 124 years is beyond the pale.

Surely it was immaterial, given the charge was criminal damage. Unless of course Cokston was on trial

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 07 Jan 22 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Isn’t this the picture taken outside the court?

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 07 Jan 22 1.17pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Saw a similar programme featuring Ainsley Harriet. They had travelled to the Caribbean to unearth his roots. His face when told that one of his ancestors was a slave owner was priceless

Edited by Spiderman (07 Jan 2022 1.17pm)

 

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View Behind Enemy Lines's Profile Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 07 Jan 22 2.39pm Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

This is why we shouldn’t always try to change the past. These people’s actions would be better directed to parts of the World where these things still go on. White Europeans merely took advantage of a trade that had already existed for centuries in Africa and elsewhere…and still goes on there. We all have ancestors that probably did wrong’ (although I have one who regularly blew up French ships in the Channel, which I am proud of!!).

Saw a similar programme featuring Ainsley Harriet. They had travelled to the Caribbean to unearth his roots. His face when told that one of his ancestors was a slave owner was priceless

Edited by Spiderman (07 Jan 2022 1.17pm)

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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View YT's Profile YT Online Flag Oxford 07 Jan 22 2.51pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I wonder how many people who cheered at the result were also furious about Trump and the Jan 6 2021 Capitol riots.

Both were examples of mob rule of course mob rule is fine just as long as you agree with the politics behind it.

Sadly I predict some idiot will damage a statue that is revered by the left and use the Bristol acquittal as a justification.


Off topic.

I was reading a book about the beginning of civilisation the written word was invented not because someone wanted to write love poems but to protect property. Thousands of year ago people who had accumulated wealth wanted to ensure that their society understood that it was theirs and no one else's.

So property ownership and property rights were the cornerstone of civilisation.

Edited by Badger11 (07 Jan 2022 11.21am)

They may well do so, but they will quickly discover that they can't rely on it in court, as no legal precedent has been set.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 07 Jan 22 5.12pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Clearly this case should not have been brought and has boomeranged spectacularly.

A jury decision does not set a precedent at all and it cannot be overturned.

The Attorney General going to the Appeal Court.

Perhaps the tories see their history of slavery going with it.


 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 07 Jan 22 5.31pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Clearly this case should not have been brought and has boomeranged spectacularly.

A jury decision does not set a precedent at all and it cannot be overturned.

The Attorney General going to the Appeal Court.

Perhaps the tories see their history of slavery going with it.


Maybe Sage and Milo could wander around the National Gallery and the British museum and smash up everything that offends them.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Jan 22 5.55pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Clearly this case should not have been brought and has boomeranged spectacularly.

A jury decision does not set a precedent at all and it cannot be overturned.

The Attorney General going to the Appeal Court.

Perhaps the tories see their history of slavery going with it.


Which I think is the correct move. The decision cannot be overruled or retried what the AG will ask the Court of Appeal for is a decision on point of law. In future can a defendant argue what these guys did as a defence justification.

If the Court of Appeal says yes they can then Parliament can if they want amend the law. If the CA say it is not a valid defence then presumably if it happens again a defendants lawyers will take note.

 


One more point

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Jan 22 7.46pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

One of his good ones

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 07 Jan 22 7.56pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

One of his good ones

Very good, I chucked him a fiver a couple of days ago.

He's putting out a lot of material.

 


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