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the Culture in the West & Japan

- career women
- late marriage ( or no marriage at all )
- promiscuity

- low fertility ( have only one kid, or none at all )
- generous dole to Longterm losers....reproducing more of the same.

- sky high house prices ( career women & dole )
- much singledom & sexual deviance & State/media promoted decadence
- MGTOW/Incel men everywhere

- high levels of education
- longevity...a society of elderlys

- high taxation & State regulation
- the mass importation of young men
- feminism , matriarchy, the demonisation/vilification of men.

- the normalisation of people reproducing with outsiders from an out-culture. ( as witnessed in Faroe Islands or Croydon ).

- insular individualism. Loss of the extended family & group identity

- everybody losing collective-community & staring at an electronic screen all day
- the promotion of LGBTQ as something to be celebrated & encouraged

- the 40 year old virgin, living with mum & dad, unemployed.
- the blue collar working man cannot afford a house, a family, a car.

.....................

all of the above culture is at complete variance with Islam, old school Christianity, or much of the Third World.

They think we are all mad, and they may be right.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (19 Sep 2021 12.17pm)

Edited by PalazioVecchio (19 Sep 2021 12.33pm)

 


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jeeagles Flag 19 Sep 21 1.00pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the Culture in the West & Japan

- career women
- late marriage ( or no marriage at all )
- promiscuity

- low fertility ( have only one kid, or none at all )
- generous dole to Longterm losers....reproducing more of the same.

- sky high house prices ( career women & dole )
- much singledom & sexual deviance & State/media promoted decadence
- MGTOW/Incel men everywhere

- high levels of education
- longevity...a society of elderlys

- high taxation & State regulation
- the mass importation of young men
- feminism , matriarchy, the demonisation/vilification of men.

- the normalisation of people reproducing with outsiders from an out-culture. ( as witnessed in Faroe Islands or Croydon ).

- insular individualism. Loss of the extended family & group identity

- everybody losing collective-community & staring at an electronic screen all day
- the promotion of LGBTQ as something to be celebrated & encouraged

- the 40 year old virgin, living with mum & dad, unemployed. is that you? Maybe you and Hrolf should build bunk beds?
- the blue collar working man cannot afford a house, a family, a car.

.....................

all of the above culture is at complete variance with Islam, old school Christianity, or much of the Third World.

They think we are all mad, and they may be right.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (19 Sep 2021 12.17pm)

Edited by PalazioVecchio (19 Sep 2021 12.33pm)

I'm pretty sure you've just recited the sermon on the mount.

Always funny when the nutters start going on about our Christian country with Christian values.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 19 Sep 21 1.23pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

I'm pretty sure you've just recited the sermon on the mount.

Always funny when the nutters start going on about our Christian country with Christian values.

a proud atheist myself. It is noteworthy that more blood has been shed for religion than anything else.

Culture War ? or Religious war ?

 


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With more footballers choosing not to kneel before games, I wonder how long it will be before the media stop reporting the tiny amount of online abuse and claim it all to be a success.
With the authorities backing themselves into a corner by persisting with this, taking the knee now goes almost unnoticed and will surely be exposed as the pointless and irrelevant gesture it always was, whether they continue it or not.
Stand by for more media reality management.

The latest Sky News adverts telling us how unbiased they are really makes me grin.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (21 Sep 2021 9.13am)

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

With more footballers choosing not to kneel before games, I wonder how long it will be before the media stop reporting the tiny amount of online abuse and claim it all to be a success.
With the authorities backing themselves into a corner by persisting with this, taking the knee now goes almost unnoticed and will surely be exposed as the pointless and irrelevant gesture it always was, whether they continue it or not.
Stand by for more media reality management.

The latest Sky News adverts telling us how unbiased they are really makes me grin.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (21 Sep 2021 9.13am)

Are you claiming that racism is no longer a problem in football and more generally in the UK?

The keeling is a reaction to abuse that these players have received and continue to receive. The fact that they get abused for taking the knee demonstrates that it is needed.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

With more footballers choosing not to kneel before games, I wonder how long it will be before the media stop reporting the tiny amount of online abuse and claim it all to be a success.
With the authorities backing themselves into a corner by persisting with this, taking the knee now goes almost unnoticed and will surely be exposed as the pointless and irrelevant gesture it always was, whether they continue it or not.
Stand by for more media reality management.

The latest Sky News adverts telling us how unbiased they are really makes me grin.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (21 Sep 2021 9.13am)

Such a waste of time that here you are still discussing it...

 

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Originally posted by kuge

Are you claiming that racism is no longer a problem in football and more generally in the UK?

The keeling is a reaction to abuse that these players have received and continue to receive. The fact that they get abused for taking the knee demonstrates that it is needed.

Kneeling now takes three seconds and in a lot of cases looks as though players are stretching their hamstrings rather than registering a display of solidarity.
As has been pointed out before the players not posting on their social media accounts would have more effect.

 

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Originally posted by kuge

Are you claiming that racism is no longer a problem in football and more generally in the UK?

The keeling is a reaction to abuse that these players have received and continue to receive. The fact that they get abused for taking the knee demonstrates that it is needed.


What I actually think is that all things are relative, and that racism in this country is not worthy of the politically motivated exposure it gets.
It is all just a predictable sign of minorities trying to increase their power and influence across society by playing the race card. Media companies have hijacked this phenomenon for commercial purposes, and given it momentum.

A good indication of how racist Britain is are the vast numbers of immigrants who wish to come here.
Many mistake favouritism towards one's own kind as racism toward another. No immigrant in any country will get a level playing field in that respect, and that is why we have laws to manage that reality.
Online abuse is a tiny problem, much of which comes from abroad, and is best ignored to starve the abusers of the attention they crave.
Oddly enough, a tactic that some of us should employ on here.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (21 Sep 2021 9.30am)

 

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jeeagles Flag 21 Sep 21 9.33am

Originally posted by kuge

Are you claiming that racism is no longer a problem in football and more generally in the UK?

The keeling is a reaction to abuse that these players have received and continue to receive. The fact that they get abused for taking the knee demonstrates that it is needed.

What's more concerning is how Hrolf wakes up, then goes to HoL and complains about players taking the knee.

How much time does he spend fretting over a gesture that lasts a few seconds on a Saturday.

 

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Originally posted by jeeagles

What's more concerning is how Hrolf wakes up, then goes to HoL and complains about players taking the knee.

How much time does he spend fretting over a gesture that lasts a few seconds on a Saturday.

Since you initially complained that I responded to you, I'm going to take my own advice and ignore your juvenile abuse from now on.
How sad must you be to follow me around the threads like some pathetic dog waiting for a scrap?

Your online abuse will be pointless from now on, just like you.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (21 Sep 2021 9.40am)

 

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jeeagles Flag 21 Sep 21 10.02am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Since you initially complained that I responded to you, I'm going to take my own advice and ignore your juvenile abuse from now on.
How sad must you be to follow me around the threads like some pathetic dog waiting for a scrap?

Your online abuse will be pointless from now on, just like you.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (21 Sep 2021 9.40am)

Play the victim

 

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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the Culture in the West & Japan

- career women
- late marriage ( or no marriage at all )
- promiscuity

- low fertility ( have only one kid, or none at all )
- generous dole to Longterm losers....reproducing more of the same.

- sky high house prices ( career women & dole )
- much singledom & sexual deviance & State/media promoted decadence
- MGTOW/Incel men everywhere

- high levels of education
- longevity...a society of elderlys

- high taxation & State regulation
- the mass importation of young men
- feminism , matriarchy, the demonisation/vilification of men.

- the normalisation of people reproducing with outsiders from an out-culture. ( as witnessed in Faroe Islands or Croydon ).

- insular individualism. Loss of the extended family & group identity

- everybody losing collective-community & staring at an electronic screen all day
- the promotion of LGBTQ as something to be celebrated & encouraged

- the 40 year old virgin, living with mum & dad, unemployed.
- the blue collar working man cannot afford a house, a family, a car.

.....................

all of the above culture is at complete variance with Islam, old school Christianity, or much of the Third World.

They think we are all mad, and they may be right.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (19 Sep 2021 12.17pm)

Edited by PalazioVecchio (19 Sep 2021 12.33pm)

It is difficult to make sense of this stream of consciousness but I will make an effort. I presume this is a list of things that you feel threatened or upset by? You must be very frightened, vulnerable and unhappy. I take no solace in knowing this and I would like to help you feel more comfortable in our contemporary condition. I think that it is only through coming to terms with what worries you and understanding why this is that you can acknowledge that society is a multi-stranded thing and that conformity leads to tension.

First off there are one or two issues that I completely agree with, such as the wealth gap that has put housing and other basic human needs beyond the reach of many. Why this has come about is a very big subject and perhaps something to discuss elsewhere.

Much of what you raise concerns sexual relationships and the structure of society. It would appear that you would advocate a return to a society where people are oppressed and persecuted for their sexuality and women are unable to work. The question is why? Do you feel personally oppressed by women that hold positions of power? Perhaps you are unable to communicate well with women so you have been unable to understand how they feel and what they want?

Although the political right often places freedom at the centre of their economic ideas in many cases the reverse applies to social issues. This desire to control how other people wish to live their lives stems in general I believe from anxiety and fear. If freedom means anything it is the ability to live your life in the way that you want.

The form of your augment being folded back on itself makes it hard to discern exactly what you are trying to say. If I am correct you believe that we should return to a society where religion closely controls all aspects of society. That being the case it’s pre-reformation England that you pinning for. As it might be argued that when Henry VIII broke with Rome in 1535 that he set in motion the forces that brought about the modern secular socially liberal society that you find so terrifying.

I am interested to know why to have grouped the West and Japan. You are mistaken to believe that the Japanese people hold the same moral or political views as the west. In many areas, Japan lags far behind, especially in relation to the treatment of women. Sadly you might think that this is a good thing.

Although it is not evident on casual acquaintance with Japanese culture Shinto and Buddhism have created a complex structure within Japanese society that is completely different to western thinking. The main aspect of this that is relevant to this discussion is that Japanese people place the success of society above the success of the self. This has been a key advantage in the post-war boom but less so in recent decades.

You write about ‘they’ without saying who ‘they’ are. Can you perhaps be clearer on this?

 

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