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Tory sleaze part 2,783

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 07 Nov 21 6.57pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

We need to pay mp"s LESS, lets say £52k a year, thats a nice grand a week, and as the CONservative mp"s seem to have so much time on their hands, a substantial amount for a seemingly part time job! This will mean that mp"s who could earn much much more in the city or where ever,(most couldn"t or they would,believe me), can fcuk off, leaving only mp"s on All sides who care about the job, and will care about the people, while still earning a handsome salary !

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Nov 21 7.23pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

And how are they doing?

They have been taking back handers for hundreds of years the honest ones don't seem to have enough of support to change the rules to stop this nonsense.

I think most are honest but stymied by the system.

Which is why we need a new party, without any baggage, to emerge. As I wrote in another thread, we need a "UKIP" style development with a strong single purpose focus. UKIP enjoyed tabloid support, and it's doubtful whether sleaze would appeal to them quite as much as Euroscepticism. We can only hope.

 

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View the.universal's Profile the.universal 07 Nov 21 9.24pm Send a Private Message to the.universal Add the.universal as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Has to wait for the outcome of her appeal, you would think he would know that.

Sometimes I despair of Starmer.

Why is he focussed on this anyway.

I would think heís trying to make some political capital out of a comparison with Borisí stance on Paterson.

From my knowledge of the case it strikes me she is bang to rights as well so it would be great if the two of them could fcuk off and not come back.

 


Vive le Roy!

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 07 Nov 21 9.53pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by the.universal

I would think heís trying to make some political capital out of a comparison with Borisí stance on Paterson.

From my knowledge of the case it strikes me she is bang to rights as well so it would be great if the two of them could fcuk off and not come back
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Sounds fair.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Nov 21 7.34pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

So how does this work? MPs arenít permitted to resign. Will they have to take fictional jobs?

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 08 Nov 21 7.47pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

So how does this work? MPs arenít permitted to resign. Will they have to take fictional jobs?

Most of them already perform one of those!

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Nov 21 10.02pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Apparently being a Tory MP means you are very good at Ďadvisingí. This is just so very wrong

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Nov 21 10.10pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

And for some, the pickings are even richer

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 10 Nov 21 1.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Ws all are! And I don't see myself as left only left relative to you.

Probably depends upon the topic.

With centralists it's usually a disagreement concerning what the reality actually is....centralists are usually part of the system and want to protect it....so they will lie for it or lie to themselves.

With the further left there's usually agreement upon the reality of many topics but...we just feel differently about them as we disagree upon the best path forwards for humanity in general.

Essentially a lot of people dislike each other when most of them have similar goals with just different approaches to them.

Ideally each individual would be able to live within separate societies that implemented ideals closer to their visions rather than wanting to force everyone to live in just one.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 11 Nov 21 2.37pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Pay them more money - £150k/year.
Make some pre-requisite rules such as having had to work in a proper job for ten years before even thinking of becoming an MP.
Ban 2nd jobs other than 2 days/month - for example.
Absolutely no other work where that business has or could get any Government contract.
No lobbying at all by business
Whitehall mandarins and even lesser mortals - no lobbying at all either
No flipping of homes to get rent from while while renting another
Blah Blah Blah - the list could be endless but the trouble is that the pigs with their snouts in the trough are the ones that will vote for it and they bloody well won't do that because they are greedy and corrupt to a man/woman/trans/he/she/it.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 11 Nov 21 2.44pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Corruption is only significantly lessened when there is fear of the consequences.

We only get to hear of the cases that the media want us to know about....in practice it's as endemic as self interest. Especially in the financial sector....but that's practically expected.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Nov 21 9.23am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

For once I actually believe the Guardian who claim that the new rules on second jobs will only impact 10 MPs.

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Some of us predicted that they would weasel their way out of it, they really think the voters are stupid.

 


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