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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 29 Jun 23 9.54am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

To Rishi, the man who has lived all his life in a gilded protective cage, it is all our fault.

We 'do not understand macro-economic global forces'.

Well, maybe we think 2 + 2 = 4.

We must hold our nerve even while on the brink struggling in many cases to pay the rent, while he lives a life of unabashed luxury.

He doesn't actually have a plan we do not have an industrial strategy (or post-brexit one) and after Truss probably must do whatever markets tell us.

His water minister actually told the HOC that because the water companies had borrowed 60 billions their finances were 'resilient'.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 29 Jun 23 10.19am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

To paraphrase some posters . You no good racist b******.
Oh sorry to quote some blah blah

Edited by cryrst (28 Jun 2023 6.23pm)

I know.

Wanting water to drink is racist.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Jul 23 1.56pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Are we in the last days of the Conservatives?

The government debt pile grew to more than 100% of annual GDP for the first time since 1961, in May.

That was near the end of the tories 13 years of misrule, the timing could not be more apt.

Most striking are the prominent Conservatives rubbishing their old model.

In an FT article headlined “Capitalism as we know it has failed”, Theresa May’s former chief of staff, Nick Timothy, argued that the UK economy created a nation of “serfs to debt, trapped by low pay and bloated assets”. Britain, he wrote, had been hooked on cheap credit and ripped off by financial engineering.

Michael Gove, levelling-up secretary, laments a “culture of dutiless rights and commercial calculation”.

Are they looking for a way out, a form of capitalism that will work, realising that theirs has failed?

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 13 Jul 23 2.13pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

They robbed the coffers.

Meanwhile : ..."Millions of public sector workers, including teachers, police and junior doctors, are to be offered pay rises between 5%-7%, the government says.

Police and prison officers will receive a 7% pay rise, while teachers and junior doctors will get a 6.5% and 6% rise respectively." (BBC website)

where has this money come from ? have they paid back any of the Covid contract money they stole ?

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 Jul 23 2.24pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

They robbed the coffers.

Meanwhile : ..."Millions of public sector workers, including teachers, police and junior doctors, are to be offered pay rises between 5%-7%, the government says.

Police and prison officers will receive a 7% pay rise, while teachers and junior doctors will get a 6.5% and 6% rise respectively." (BBC website)

where has this money come from ? have they paid back any of the Covid contract money they stole ?

Looks like from existing budgets. Stopping paying Stonewall would certainly help find some money

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 13 Jul 23 2.40pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Sunak says he is raising immigrant visa fees and NHS immigrant health surcharges to help fund the wage rises, so that's something positive.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Jul 23 3.25pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

You only have to see Angela Rayner to know that however bad the Tories have been, Labour will be far worse.

The Labour shadow cabinet are like characters from a bad comedy.

We never voted for the slimy Wallace and Gromit character that is Rishi Sunak, so the government deserve what they get, but sadly, their loss will also be ours.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Jul 23 3.41pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

In 2021, the independent Wealth Tax Commission recommended that the government introduced a one-off 1% wealth tax on households with more than £1m, which they said would generate £260bn, more than enough to cover a year's funding of the NHS and social care spending.


 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 13 Jul 23 3.45pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

In 2021, the independent Wealth Tax Commission recommended that the government introduced a one-off 1% wealth tax on households with more than £1m, which they said would generate £260bn, more than enough to cover a year's funding of the NHS and social care spending.

What are you going to do when you run out of wealthier people to fleece?

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Jul 23 3.54pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

In 2021, the independent Wealth Tax Commission recommended that the government introduced a one-off 1% wealth tax on households with more than £1m, which they said would generate £260bn, more than enough to cover a year's funding of the NHS and social care spending.


Britain is not an equal society, the wealthy do not pay their fair share, and the idea that this somehow benefits us is obviously totally wrong, as, after another 13 years of this failure, we would not find ourselves in the situation we are now in.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 Jul 23 4.52pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Britain is not an equal society, the wealthy do not pay their fair share, and the idea that this somehow benefits us is obviously totally wrong, as, after another 13 years of this failure, we would not find ourselves in the situation we are now in.

Let us refrain from commenting until we have seen a Union controlled government again

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 13 Jul 23 4.56pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Britain is not an equal society, the wealthy do not pay their fair share, and the idea that this somehow benefits us is obviously totally wrong, as, after another 13 years of this failure, we would not find ourselves in the situation we are now in.

Are any societies equal? People with higher incomes pay higher rates of taxation. In terms of income tax, higher tax rated employees pay more than their fair share. The idea that if you take money from those that have more than others and give it to the latter, it will somehow fix things and bring equality (whatever that is) is just pie in the sky nonsense.

 

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