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 becky  over the moon 13 Apr 22 1.58pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Depends how you count them Italian Navy has 181 ships in service, Royal Navy 70 Italians have 4 Destroyers and Royal Navy 6 Both have two aircraft carriers Italians have 8 submarines and the Royal Navy has 10, all nuclear Both Navies have 13 Frigates. What counts more is how effective they are, which is mainly based on how modern. And also scale, the Royal Navy displaces 433,800 Tonnes, the Italian Navy 275,000. Bet theirs have actual planes toughs.......
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 13 Apr 22 2.35pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
It was fine for these people to work together all day but not to have a drink together. Because he wouldn"t have overseen the £47 billion ppe scandal, setting up his gf who owned a dog food canning factory into dog food and ppe are us and channeling millions of pounds through it? He wouldn"t have wasted £36 billion on a failed track and trace system either. I rest my case, and not that i"m championing Sir keir, anybody would have done a better job than big dog bungle, and his crony brown nosing cabinet-the sooner they go the better- thou i can"t see it happening just yet.
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 13 Apr 22 2.40pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
It was fine for these people to work together all day but not to have a drink together. It would be fine for them to sit together after in the office-just the invitations with "bring a bottle" give the game away- if you are going to make the rules, stick to them. If you don"t know what a bring a bottle party is, youre in the wrong job, perhaps more suited to bungle bear entertainer or a host dressed as peppa pig in piggy land! As much as you die hards keep defending them , this rabble are slowly getting through to the country as hardship eats in, 57% want bungle out, nearly 6 in 10, im waiting for the i dont vote for them comment, strange how so many on here who don"t admit to voting for them keep defending them Ted!
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 13 Apr 22 2.47pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Depends how you count them Italian Navy has 181 ships in service, Royal Navy 70 Italians have 4 Destroyers and Royal Navy 6 Both have two aircraft carriers Italians have 8 submarines and the Royal Navy has 10, all nuclear Both Navies have 13 Frigates. What counts more is how effective they are, which is mainly based on how modern. And also scale, the Royal Navy displaces 433,800 Tonnes, the Italian Navy 275,000. Thanks Maple, very informative, but the mere fact Italy have as much as us is quite shocking, they might be better at football than us, actually win trophys, but I was sure we outflanked them on the seas!
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 13 Apr 22 2.50pm |
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Originally posted by becky
Bet theirs have actual planes toughs....... Ha, yes indeed Becky, perhaps we should just call them carriers.
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 Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 13 Apr 22 2.53pm |
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The Italians can have all the machine and weaponry they want, I'd still back the Ethiopians were history to repeat itself!
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 13 Apr 22 3.09pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
The Italians can have all the machine and weaponry they want, I'd still back the Ethiopians were history to repeat itself! Deffo in the marathon!
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| Mapletree Croydon 13 Apr 22 3.13pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Thanks Maple, very informative, but the mere fact Italy have as much as us is quite shocking, they might be better at football than us, actually win trophys, but I was sure we outflanked them on the seas! We do Really displacement is the best thing to judge against
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| steeleye20 Croydon 13 Apr 22 3.17pm |
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Its difficult to see what use aircraft carriers are, together with all the proliferation that goes with them. They have to be accompanied and defended by the latest aircraft, modern ships and even a nuclear submarine. They would take 7-10 days to get anywhere meaningful and leak like sieves. The cost of running them is stratospheric at the moment they are in port well away from the conflict. Russia only has one aged aircraft carrier, they are 'a floating target' - Putin's words. Had we spent the money on rapid reaction mobile forces, upgrading tanks and the latest tech, cyber, we would be in a far better position to counter Russia, which has been our number one threat not anything in the far east.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 13 Apr 22 3.27pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Because he wouldn"t have overseen the £47 billion ppe scandal, setting up his gf who owned a dog food canning factory into dog food and ppe are us and channeling millions of pounds through it? He wouldn"t have wasted £36 billion on a failed track and trace system either. I rest my case, and not that i"m championing Sir keir, anybody would have done a better job than big dog bungle, and his crony brown nosing cabinet-the sooner they go the better- thou i can"t see it happening just yet. Future Partygate revelations may be even worse for Boris Johnson, says Tory MP. There were more parties and Johnson lied about them all to the HOC as well. Why people want to defend them is 'beyond belief'.
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Teddy Eagle  13 Apr 22 3.49pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
It would be fine for them to sit together after in the office-just the invitations with "bring a bottle" give the game away- if you are going to make the rules, stick to them. If you don"t know what a bring a bottle party is, youre in the wrong job, perhaps more suited to bungle bear entertainer or a host dressed as peppa pig in piggy land! As much as you die hards keep defending them , this rabble are slowly getting through to the country as hardship eats in, 57% want bungle out, nearly 6 in 10, im waiting for the i dont vote for them comment, strange how so many on here who don"t admit to voting for them keep defending them Ted! I wasn’t aware I was defending them; the politicians we have, of any persuasion, are mostly not worthy of any respect let alone dying hard for.
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 13 Apr 22 4.06pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
It was fine for these people to work together all day but not to have a drink together. This! Seems like you are defending the party Teddy, plain and simples!
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