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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 09 Apr 22 1.53pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Except that it then has to be paid for via taxation, while being run with far less efficiency.

Of course, but the state gets to decide what that looks like, not corporations.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Apr 22 4.32pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

There was no comment about the French government or their finances beyond the utility comparison.

I can't claim to know a great deal about French finances, but at a glance their citizens seem to benefit from far more protections and support than we ever have, and whilst you seem to position it as a bad thing, it seems they have a government who are held to account and actually try to improve the lives of the population.

Our government is failing to do that in even the most basic of ways.

The French government protect people to the maximum in every way. Problem is they’ve been in massive debt for a very long time. Nationalising energy is working for them now but all the rest of the government support comes at a cost.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 09 Apr 22 4.39pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I can't believe I have to explain this, but it would mean we're not all hit with a monstrous increase in cost.

I really don't understand your position - mass poverty, people not being able to turn their heating on in one of the richest countries in the world, but you're happy as long as the energy companies get to make billions out of it (and not even pay a decent tax rate on that)

We're being taken for an absolute ride, and you're cheering it on.

Those were kier starmers words on the wireless the other day.
Categorically said companies need and should make a profit but excess profits if causing distress should be taxed more.
It actually surprised me but he has a point.
That was my question to you and some figures on profits of said businesses. I doubt its as much as is needed for £700 per household.
Can you help with the figures?

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 09 Apr 22 4.45pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

There was no comment about the French government or their finances beyond the utility comparison.

I can't claim to know a great deal about French finances, but at a glance their citizens seem to benefit from far more protections and support than we ever have, and whilst you seem to position it as a bad thing, it seems they have a government who are held to account and actually try to improve the lives of the population.

Our government is failing to do that in even the most basic of ways.

What France are doing is similar to what put Greece where they are.
Guaranteed macron will lose in 4 years time after this coming election assuming he wins this time; so he doesn't have to deal with the fallout of his socialist actions.
The tories had to deal with labour's f*** up what with PFI and tons of contracts given out. Free stuff for many people.
Watch and remember as France will implode within 5 years.
Then the EU is definitely finished.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 10 Apr 22 5.51pm

I think the chancellor holding a green card while working in government is incompetence isn"t it? And only 12000 people actually arriving in the uk after 4 weeks is certainly not good, incompetence perhaps? We can not seem to get anything right at all, have a liar as our leader, so not sure you can believe anything coming out of his mouth at all, in fact, I will continue doing the opposite of any advice he gives, and will almost certainly be happy I did,strange times , shocking we have sunk so low, but, half the country seem happy enough! Lets see in a couple of months when the heating has to go on again and they are getting sick of having no spare money in the wallet, but who to blame? Certainly not the government, no way, blame the old labour government perhaps? Why ever not? It"s their fault for not winning the election, and 12 years isn"t enough time for a government to settle in after all, lets give them another 12, then see how the land lies!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 10 Apr 22 6.56pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

I think the chancellor holding a green card while working in government is incompetence isn"t it? And only 12000 people actually arriving in the uk after 4 weeks is certainly not good, incompetence perhaps? We can not seem to get anything right at all, have a liar as our leader, so not sure you can believe anything coming out of his mouth at all, in fact, I will continue doing the opposite of any advice he gives, and will almost certainly be happy I did,strange times , shocking we have sunk so low, but, half the country seem happy enough! Lets see in a couple of months when the heating has to go on again and they are getting sick of having no spare money in the wallet, but who to blame? Certainly not the government, no way, blame the old labour government perhaps? Why ever not? It"s their fault for not winning the election, and 12 years isn"t enough time for a government to settle in after all, lets give them another 12, then see how the land lies!

So that's the ones in dingys I guess which cost millions each week but let's pile on some more pressure on the paye employees.
Maybe swap some of these for actual Ukrainians would be the way.
After all the dingys are full of mostly cowardly men and its women and children from Ukraine as the men stay to fight for their country.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 10 Apr 22 10.25pm

Originally posted by cryrst

So that's the ones in dingys I guess which cost millions each week but let's pile on some more pressure on the paye employees.
Maybe swap some of these for actual Ukrainians would be the way.
After all the dingys are full of mostly cowardly men and its women and children from Ukraine as the men stay to fight for their country.

lets open the dors to the ukranians then-not a measly 12000 in a month, we couldn"t organise more than that in a month? Absolutely shocking , lets hope mad dog doesn"t come for big dog over here and we have to flee, you would be swotting up on your French /English dictionary i summise!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 10 Apr 22 10.36pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

lets open the dors to the ukranians then-not a measly 12000 in a month, we couldn"t organise more than that in a month? Absolutely shocking , lets hope mad dog doesn"t come for big dog over here and we have to flee, you would be swotting up on your French /English dictionary i summise!

Not at all. I would be the forlorn hope and proud to be it.
So keep the dingy ones and the Ukrainian ones.
Where does the money come from to pay for these people.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 10 Apr 22 10.44pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

lets open the dors to the ukranians then-not a measly 12000 in a month, we couldn"t organise more than that in a month? Absolutely shocking , lets hope mad dog doesn"t come for big dog over here and we have to flee, you would be swotting up on your French /English dictionary i summise!

1,200

That is one thousand two hundred

Another 10,800 have arrived under the Ukrainian family scheme for those with existing family connections to the UK so not strictly speaking refugees

Slovakia has taken 270,000. Poland 2,500,000. France 30,000, Germany 316,000.

But the UK is Ukraine’s biggest European cheer leader. As long as we don’t actually get our hands dirty. Johnson has piled in for all he’s worth as this is his Falklands moment but we make it nigh impossible for the women, children and elderly to flee here.

I wonder why the image of the English across Europe is of being totally two-faced

Edited by Mapletree (10 Apr 2022 10.51pm)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Apr 22 9.40am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

1,200

That is one thousand two hundred

Another 10,800 have arrived under the Ukrainian family scheme for those with existing family connections to the UK so not strictly speaking refugees

Slovakia has taken 270,000. Poland 2,500,000. France 30,000, Germany 316,000.

But the UK is Ukraine’s biggest European cheer leader. As long as we don’t actually get our hands dirty. Johnson has piled in for all he’s worth as this is his Falklands moment but we make it nigh impossible for the women, children and elderly to flee here.

I wonder why the image of the English across Europe is of being totally two-faced

Edited by Mapletree (10 Apr 2022 10.51pm)

A surprise to hear you criticising Britain.

I think all Britons should give up their income and move out of their houses so there is more room and money for refugees.

It's the right thing to do. Why should we expect anyone to care about our circumstance when there are all those foreigners who are more deserving than scum like us?

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 11 Apr 22 11.07am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

GDP figures slump to 0.1% in February.

The figures don't lie, Sunak is ruining Britain.

Not covid, not even brexit, but Sunak.


 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 11 Apr 22 12.53pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

GDP figures slump to 0.1% in February.

The figures don't lie, Sunak is ruining Britain.

Not covid, not even brexit, but Sunak.


And every family should get £700 towards energy costs.
Yup makes sense!

 

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