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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 Jan 22 6.12pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

No, Blair tried to avoid war by going to the United Nations (contrary to the USA who did not want to).

United Nations Resolutions gave Sadaam Hussein the opportunity of stating he had no weapons of mass destruction.

He repeatedly failed to do so, three times, leaving no option.

If this had been a conservative government we would have more likely have gone to war immediately.

As we have seen this year, conservative governments are just puppets of the USA.

Yo Blair! What about Dr Kelly?

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 04 Jan 22 8.22pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

No, Blair tried to avoid war by going to the United Nations (contrary to the USA who did not want to).

United Nations Resolutions gave Sadaam Hussein the opportunity of stating he had no weapons of mass destruction.

He repeatedly failed to do so, three times, leaving no option.

If this had been a conservative government we would have more likely have gone to war immediately.

As we have seen this year, conservative governments are just puppets of the USA.

It was dressed up as an imminent threat (45 minutes to deploy etc). I'm not so sure that there was a way out for Hussein regardless of what he did or did not declare.

Indeed it was seemingly already decided well in advance that we and American would be going into Iraq, and it was specifically and categorically stated that false reasons would be manufactured to get us to that point. (' painting a U-2 spyplane in United Nations (UN) colors and letting it fly low over Iraq to provoke Iraq into shooting it down, thus providing a pretext for the subsequent invasion etc) [Link] .

"It also shows Bush and Blair were making a secret deal to carry out the invasion regardless of whether weapons of mass destruction were discovered by UN weapons inspectors, in direct contradiction to statements made by Blair to British Parliament afterwards that Saddam would be given a final chance to disarm.

According to the memo, Bush is paraphrased as saying:

The start date for the military campaign was now pencilled in for 10 March. This was when the bombing would begin."

Blair was an egomaniac who was clearly close to infatuated with the idea of being Bush's 'sideman' and a major player on the world stage. Don't get me wrong, then and since he's played that like a charm to his financial advantage. I'm not about to give the benefit of the doubt to someone like him though, regardless of what party he claimed to represent.

I would agree that the current lot likely aren't any better. I'm not really seeing anyone worth voting for right now! Decent people often get left in the dust by the corrupted and corruptible. The system is under so many pressures from those with power, the rich, corporations. The interests of the man on the street ends up way down the list.

Edited by BlueJay (04 Jan 2022 8.25pm)

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 04 Jan 22 8.25pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Wasn't Blair caught cottaging in North London in his early days?

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 Jan 22 8.38pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Wasn't Blair caught cottaging in North London in his early days?

Well he he has a large property portfolio, oh that's not what you meant.

 


One more point

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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 04 Jan 22 8.56pm Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

It lets you all you need to know that someone like Blair as always nailed on for a knighthood. Regardless of politics I never encounter many who have time for him nowadays. And the smugness of the man throughout it all.

All ex PMs will be knighted and probably get called to the House of Lords ... e.g. Sir David Cameron (one helluva useless **** who didn't even have the balls to stay around once he'd messed up. He knew which 'mates' to tap up when he wanted to make himself some money though!). All I am saying is there are certainly some who would be less deserving than Tony Blair.

 


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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag The Big Wide World 04 Jan 22 10.23pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

I'm certainly not saying that a petition should hold sway. Just that Tony Blair is a narcissist who went to war on dodgy info, which resulted in countless deaths that he doesn't appear to lose much sleep over. Even if he still has some supporters, he doesn't need them. He's his very own one man love-in.

He not only went to war on dodgy info. He wanted to go to war because he saw what winning a war done for Thatcher (The Falklands). The only problem was that it was a war that was never going to be won, but hey-ho, what's a few hundred squaddies lives between friends ?

Despicable, vile curnt.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 04 Jan 22 10.50pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

There are 66 million people in the country not 500,000 petition signers.

And they voted him PM three times, including the election after the Iraq war.

Not all the population are eligible to vote

 


A lie will travel half way around the world before the truth has got it's shoes on.

When conceited septuagenarians opine , best to ignore.

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 04 Jan 22 11.10pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

All ex PMs will be knighted and probably get called to the House of Lords ... e.g. Sir David Cameron (one helluva useless **** who didn't even have the balls to stay around once he'd messed up. He knew which 'mates' to tap up when he wanted to make himself some money though!). All I am saying is there are certainly some who would be less deserving than Tony Blair.

Yes, I have no doubt that it's not a who's who of the most deserving when in comes to honours being given out to these types. I have far more time for ordinary people who are acknowledged based on making a noteworthy contribution to societ or their community. They have at least often done something positive that is deserving of praise.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 04 Jan 22 11.13pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by martin2412

He not only went to war on dodgy info. He wanted to go to war because he saw what winning a war done for Thatcher (The Falklands). The only problem was that it was a war that was never going to be won, but hey-ho, what's a few hundred squaddies lives between friends ?

Despicable, vile curnt.

Indeed. That and the deaths of countless civilians who are perpetually caught in the middle.

Edited by BlueJay (04 Jan 2022 11.14pm)

 

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Tony Blair's Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon says he was told to burn secret memo that said Iraq war could be illegal - [Link]

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 05 Jan 22 12.49pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

The Honours system needs a massive overhaul and rescinding this Mans honour would be a great start to 2022.
Only 700,000 might have signed the petition but i suspect many millions would be cheering in the streets if it were to happen.
He is a reviled ex-leader regardless of ones politics!

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 05 Jan 22 12.52pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Tony Blair's Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon says he was told to burn secret memo that said Iraq war could be illegal - [Link]

What is it with Geoff Hoon's face? I've never seen a picture of him not looking like there's a midget downstairs blowing him.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2022 12.52pm)

 


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