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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 05 Jan 22 12.53pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

An interesting thought Stirling - one that has just made me chuckle loudly!

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 05 Jan 22 12.57pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

An interesting thought Stirling - one that has just made me chuckle loudly!

Tips hat.

That midget deserves a pay rise....her job sucks.

 


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After Suez in 1956 the English and French governments destroyed the evidence, which probably explains why you don't see much newsreel etc.

The cabinet secretary burnt everything in the grate at 10 Downing Street, it must have kept the place warm for weeks.

Beats burning a memo, Mrs May preferred the shredder.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 05 Jan 22 1.46pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

After Suez in 1956 the English and French governments destroyed the evidence, which probably explains why you don't see much newsreel etc.

The cabinet secretary burnt everything in the grate at 10 Downing Street, it must have kept the place warm for weeks.

Beats burning a memo, Mrs May preferred the shredder.

When the American embassy was under siege in Iran In 1979 they shredded everything they could before being captured. The Iranians brought in some Persian carpet makers who put the documents back together without too much trouble.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Jan 22 2.38pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Tips hat.

That midget deserves a pay rise....her job sucks.

How do you know itís a her? Not stereotyping surely, Stirly?

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Jan 22 2.40pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

After Suez in 1956 the English and French governments destroyed the evidence, which probably explains why you don't see much newsreel etc.

The cabinet secretary burnt everything in the grate at 10 Downing Street, it must have kept the place warm for weeks.

Beats burning a memo, Mrs May preferred the shredder.

Not when that memo could indict him! Wonder if you would be so generous if it had been a Tory PM in same circumstances?

 

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Her Majesty probably has a high regard for Tony B after his wise counsel over Diana's death, really he saved the day for the monarchy.

Otherwise they would have skulked at Balmoral.

TB an excellent PM.

 

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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag The Big Wide World 07 Jan 22 7.54pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jan 22 8.06pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

How do you know itís a her? Not stereotyping surely, Stirly?

I certainly am.

 


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Originally posted by steeleye20

After Suez in 1956 the English and French governments destroyed the evidence, which probably explains why you don't see much newsreel etc.

The cabinet secretary burnt everything in the grate at 10 Downing Street, it must have kept the place warm for weeks.

Beats burning a memo, Mrs May preferred the shredder.

English government?? how many moons on your planet?

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Jan 22 11.14pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Tony Blair's Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon says he was told to burn secret memo that said Iraq war could be illegal - [Link]

Not unusually for a piece from the agenda driven, sensationalist, Daily Mail, the headlines and first paragraphs rely on the probability that most readers won't study the detail, understand it, or even read their own piece to the end.

That the advice from the AJ on the legality of us joining the Americans was complicated, mixed and borderline is well known, and was when it was given. That's nothing new. Nor, I suspect, is it so unusual in such circumstances for a "for your eyes only" communication to be expected to be destroyed after reading, to ensure it did not reach other eyes.

It was my understanding at the time that Blair was trying to reign back Bush and get him to adopt another strategy. Which is why it went to the UN. It is also my belief that a secret agreement was reached between Churchill and Roosevelt when the USA joined us in WW2, that committed the UK to supporting the USA, when requested to, in its military endeavours in specific areas of mutually shared interest. Including the Middle East.

If true, and it's only a hunch based on observation, then Blair was between a rock and a hard place.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 08 Jan 22 12.22am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not unusually for a piece from the agenda driven, sensationalist, Daily Mail, the headlines and first paragraphs rely on the probability that most readers won't study the detail, understand it, or even read their own piece to the end.

That the advice from the AJ on the legality of us joining the Americans was complicated, mixed and borderline is well known, and was when it was given. That's nothing new. Nor, I suspect, is it so unusual in such circumstances for a "for your eyes only" communication to be expected to be destroyed after reading, to ensure it did not reach other eyes.

It was my understanding at the time that Blair was trying to reign back Bush and get him to adopt another strategy. Which is why it went to the UN.
It is also my belief that a secret agreement was reached between Churchill and Roosevelt when the USA joined us in WW2, that committed the UK to supporting the USA, when requested to, in its military endeavours in specific areas of mutually shared interest. Including the Middle East.

If true, and it's only a hunch based on observation, then Blair was between a rock and a hard place.

Possibly a generous take who knows, but I hope you're right. I don't like to think that we may have been unnecessarily dragged to the forefront of such a horrible chapter in history. I don't have much time for the man myself, when push came to shove it just seemed to be all about him.

 

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