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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 11 Jan 22 3.43am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Cannot see him surviving this.

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I thought they might give him a chance to turn it around for the May local elections but clearly, there is now a concerted effort to get rid of him within a matter of a couple of weeks.

If this story is true then there are ZERO excuses for it and the hubris behind even the notion of trying to get away with it is beyond any kind of rational comprehension.

Throw in the fact that Gove was all over the television yesterday and is now leading this charge on the cladding issue, tells me that he is the one behind it all and that a decision has been taken that Johnson's time is up.

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 11 Jan 22 4.40am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

The guy is teflon. He'll try to flannel his way out, and many complicit voters will follow him to the bitter end.

 


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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 11 Jan 22 4.48am Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Cannot see him surviving this.

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I thought they might give him a chance to turn it around for the May local elections but clearly, there is now a concerted effort to get rid of him within a matter of a couple of weeks.

If this story is true then there are ZERO excuses for it and the hubris behind even the notion of trying to get away with it is beyond any kind of rational comprehension.

Throw in the fact that Gove was all over the television yesterday and is now leading this charge on the cladding issue, tells me that he is the one behind it all and that a decision has been taken that Johnson's time is up.

Presumably, these people were all working together anyway and the afternoon/ evening shift took their own drinks out into the garden? In view of this, I can't get too excited about a potential 'non-event'. The Tories (not just Peppa Pig) may tumble in May because of their failure to deliver post Brexit as well as all the ongoing seediness that's associated with them.

Edited by Henry of Peckham (11 Jan 2022 5.09am)

 


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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 11 Jan 22 10.43am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

The guy is teflon. He'll try to flannel his way out, and many complicit voters will follow him to the bitter end.

Agreed. The Tories knew what to expect when they made him their leader and the public seem to like him.

On the news last night, when asked about it he just smirked and tried to flirt his way out of it.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 11 Jan 22 10.49am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I can't really see Johnson being removed as leader before the next election....You would need a scandal on a much bigger scale.

 


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View Wilesy01's Profile Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 11 Jan 22 11.25am Send a Private Message to Wilesy01 Add Wilesy01 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I can't really see Johnson being removed as leader before the next election....You would need a scandal on a much bigger scale.

I think anybody who lost a loved one during the lockdown who were not able to see them in their last moments, nor able to hold a proper funeral for them would call this a big scandal.

You can't ask the public to make enormous sacrifices like that and not abide by your own rules.

But sadly the PM is a slippery fish so may well find a way out of this. It's whether his party will tolerate this type of behaviour in fear of an electoral battering at the next GE is the big question.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 11 Jan 22 11.38am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wilesy01

I think anybody who lost a loved one during the lockdown who were not able to see them in their last moments, nor able to hold a proper funeral for them would call this a big scandal.

You can't ask the public to make enormous sacrifices like that and not abide by your own rules.

But sadly the PM is a slippery fish so may well find a way out of this. It's whether his party will tolerate this type of behaviour in fear of an electoral battering at the next GE is the big question.

Yeah but you probably thought that those rules and sacrifices were justified in the first place, whereas when it comes to losing a close relative I would have had it as personal choice with disclaimer warning and what safety procedures could be implemented. This isn't the black death and I think the balance has been wrong since the start.

The reality is that most of the public are tired of covid restrictions now so this just won't have the same impact than it might have had a year ago. It has much more traction with activists and the political than it will with the public....most of whom know that politicians are hypocrites anyway.

While there is considerable disquiet within the Tory party over Johnson...pretty much from the start he has always been an election winner. So essentially the Tories have their own Blair, where most of the party's grass roots aren't happy but the MPs like their jobs.

However, while the Tory Mps hold their nose less easily than Labour did with Blair I can't see them giving up their meal ticket without a considerable scandal.

He would be much more likely to go in the year after an election.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Jan 2022 11.44am)

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 11 Jan 22 11.51am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

The guy is teflon. He'll try to flannel his way out, and many complicit voters will follow him to the bitter end.

Quite.

I suspect he is now looking for a suitable head to chop for deflection purposes - that Martin bloke seems a likely one.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 11 Jan 22 11.57am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Quite.

I suspect he is now looking for a suitable head to chop for deflection purposes - that Martin bloke seems a likely one.

You mean the civil servant he sent the email invitation? Quite right.

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 11 Jan 22 12.23pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

I am sure CCO and 1922 ctte have very good idea at what point Boris becomes an election liability and they will immediately get rid of him.

When the grown up election comes people will look at their own financial position first and foremost, other issues very secondary.

The indicators are that the economy will continue to improve in terms of size and output, the tricky issue is when inflation is higher than wage increases.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 11 Jan 22 12.40pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Quite.

I suspect he is now looking for a suitable head to chop for deflection purposes - that Martin bloke seems a likely one.

signs of a psychopath ?

- a chaotic love life
- abrogating responsibility for previous trainwrecks

 


Pay for a BBC TV license ? yeah, right.

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View eaglesdare's Profile eaglesdare Flag 11 Jan 22 12.46pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Boris just doing what most of us did during lockdown!
He didint even want lockdowns to begin with I am sure his hands were tied!

If anyone else was pm england would be back in lockdown over the Christmas just gone!

Better the devil you know tbh! Wish Irish leaders had even half the backbone that Boris does!

 

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