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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Sep 22 9.43pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Sorry I'm not a wimp. I don't talk tough and then rely upon others to throw my punches.....using a lot of flowerly language to dress it up as something else. I either throw my own punches or I don't get involved. No man should ever advocate for action that he wouldn't be willing to take himself. L You seem more waffle than human. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Sep 2022 8.40pm) Following that logic no-one of my age, is disabled or or otherwise unfit in some way should be allowed an opinion on anything which might involve the use of force. Unlike you I believe in democracy. I believe we employ people to protect us from bullies. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 21 Sep 22 9.43pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Sorry I'm not a wimp.

I don't talk tough and then rely upon others to throw my punches.....using a lot of flowerly language to dress it up as something else.

I either throw my own punches or I don't get involved.

No man should ever advocate for action that he wouldn't be willing to take himself.
L
You seem more waffle than human.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Sep 2022 8.40pm)

Following that logic no-one of my age, is disabled or or otherwise unfit in some way should be allowed an opinion on anything which might involve the use of force.

Unlike you I believe in democracy. I believe we employ people to protect us from bullies.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 21 Sep 22 10.09pm
No, the world would be a far better place if only those who advocated violence actually fought. One thing is for certain, there would be a lot less tough talk. Put up or shut up sorts the wheat from the chaff. The number of young lives that have been ended by the hubris of old angry fools are legion. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Sep 2022 10.10pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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21 Sep 22 10.09pm

No, the world would be a far better place if only those who advocated violence actually fought.

One thing is for certain, there would be a lot less tough talk. Put up or shut up sorts the wheat from the chaff.

The number of young lives that have been ended by the hubris of old angry fools are legion.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Sep 2022 10.10pm)

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Ouzo Dan Behind you 21 Sep 22 10.24pm
For all of Russia's talk of De-nazifying Ukraine they released the commander of the Azov Battalion back to Ukraine today. Russian telegram channels are in meltdown, many now feel lied to about the reasons Russia is there The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Behind you 21 Sep 22 10.24pm

For all of Russia's talk of De-nazifying Ukraine they released the commander of the Azov Battalion back to Ukraine today.

Russian telegram channels are in meltdown, many now feel lied to about the reasons Russia is there

The mountains are calling & I must go.

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Mapletree Croydon 21 Sep 22 10.35pm
Originally posted by Ouzo Dan For all of Russia's talk of De-nazifying Ukraine they released the commander of the Azov Battalion back to Ukraine today. Russian telegram channels are in meltdown, many now feel lied to about the reasons Russia is there Wow. Makes you wonder what collateral Ukraine was holding to do that deal. Also what shape this guy is in, I don’t think there will be as much of him left as he was born with Is this prokopenko? I can’t see any mention in uk media Edited by Mapletree (21 Sep 2022 10.46pm)
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Croydon 21 Sep 22 10.35pm

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

For all of Russia's talk of De-nazifying Ukraine they released the commander of the Azov Battalion back to Ukraine today.

Russian telegram channels are in meltdown, many now feel lied to about the reasons Russia is there

Wow. Makes you wonder what collateral Ukraine was holding to do that deal. Also what shape this guy is in, I don’t think there will be as much of him left as he was born with

Is this prokopenko? I can’t see any mention in uk media

Edited by Mapletree (21 Sep 2022 10.46pm)

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Stirlingsays 21 Sep 22 11.04pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Wow. Makes you wonder what collateral Ukraine was holding to do that deal. Also what shape this guy is in, I don’t think there will be as much of him left as he was born with Is this prokopenko? I can’t see any mention in uk media Edited by Mapletree (21 Sep 2022 10.46pm) From what Russian telegram is saying on their returns. 2 senior officers (lieutenant colonel and major) 6 junior officers 4 warrant officers 40 privates and sergeants 2 servicemen of the NM DPR 1 serviceman of NM LNR Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Sep 2022 11.05pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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21 Sep 22 11.04pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Wow. Makes you wonder what collateral Ukraine was holding to do that deal. Also what shape this guy is in, I don’t think there will be as much of him left as he was born with

Is this prokopenko? I can’t see any mention in uk media

Edited by Mapletree (21 Sep 2022 10.46pm)

From what Russian telegram is saying on their returns.

2 senior officers (lieutenant colonel and major)
6 junior officers
4 warrant officers
40 privates and sergeants
2 servicemen of the NM DPR
1 serviceman of NM LNR

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Sep 2022 11.05pm)

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Stirlingsays 21 Sep 22 11.31pm
To put things into perspective....because unfortunately our own media won't, 300,000 additional troops is the figure that has been suggested for the partial mobilization. This is around 1.1% of Russia’s 25 million-men reserve. Just one of the reasons why this is one of the stupidest wars possible. Pushing Russia into China's orbit and creating this world division and cold war is so crazy that I can't quite believe what I'm witnessing. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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21 Sep 22 11.31pm

To put things into perspective....because unfortunately our own media won't, 300,000 additional troops is the figure that has been suggested for the partial mobilization.

This is around 1.1% of Russia’s 25 million-men reserve. Just one of the reasons why this is one of the stupidest wars possible.

Pushing Russia into China's orbit and creating this world division and cold war is so crazy that I can't quite believe what I'm witnessing.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 22 Sep 22 12.16am
215 PoW's including the valuable Britons and Americans for 55 of your own, of which only like 4 were senior officers, doesn't seem a good trade to me. Me thinks something else going on in the background there. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Sep 22 12.16am

215 PoW's including the valuable Britons and Americans for 55 of your own, of which only like 4 were senior officers, doesn't seem a good trade to me.

Me thinks something else going on in the background there.

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Stirlingsays 22 Sep 22 12.18am
I must admit...this on Telegram did make me laugh. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Sep 2022 12.19am) Attachment: doit.JPG (64.10Kb) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Sep 22 12.18am

I must admit...this on Telegram did make me laugh.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Sep 2022 12.19am)

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Ouzo Dan Behind you 22 Sep 22 4.23am
Originally posted by Mapletree Wow. Makes you wonder what collateral Ukraine was holding to do that deal. Also what shape this guy is in, I don’t think there will be as much of him left as he was born with Is this prokopenko? I can’t see any mention in uk media Edited by Mapletree (21 Sep 2022 10.46pm) Believe the swap included 200 Azov soldiers who surrendered at the steel plant in Mariupol. Cossack Gundi was released too, Russia got 50 of its own including Viktor Medvechuk. Attachment: Screenshot_2022-09-22-05-18-26-944_com.twitter.android.jpg (786.35Kb) The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Ouzo Dan

Behind you 22 Sep 22 4.23am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Wow. Makes you wonder what collateral Ukraine was holding to do that deal. Also what shape this guy is in, I don’t think there will be as much of him left as he was born with

Is this prokopenko? I can’t see any mention in uk media

Edited by Mapletree (21 Sep 2022 10.46pm)

Believe the swap included 200 Azov soldiers who surrendered at the steel plant in Mariupol.
Cossack Gundi was released too,

Russia got 50 of its own including Viktor Medvechuk.

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The mountains are calling & I must go.

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Ouzo Dan Behind you 22 Sep 22 4.27am
I'd heard rumours this was happening but thought it was nonsense. Sentenced to death for Protesting. Russia isn't messing about. [Tweet Link] The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Ouzo Dan

Behind you 22 Sep 22 4.27am

I'd heard rumours this was happening but thought it was nonsense.
Sentenced to death for Protesting.
Russia isn't messing about.

[Tweet Link]

The mountains are calling & I must go.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Sep 22 10.04am
Originally posted by Ouzo Dan For all of Russia's talk of De-nazifying Ukraine they released the commander of the Azov Battalion back to Ukraine today. Russian telegram channels are in meltdown, many now feel lied to about the reasons Russia is there I heard a Russia “expert” (ex diplomat) say yesterday that the biggest internal problem that Putin faces is not from those protesting about the conscription but from the ultra nationalists who feel the army has failed them. Is this true? For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 22 Sep 22 10.04am

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

For all of Russia's talk of De-nazifying Ukraine they released the commander of the Azov Battalion back to Ukraine today.

Russian telegram channels are in meltdown, many now feel lied to about the reasons Russia is there

I heard a Russia “expert” (ex diplomat) say yesterday that the biggest internal problem that Putin faces is not from those protesting about the conscription but from the ultra nationalists who feel the army has failed them.

Is this true?

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Goal Machine The Cronx 22 Sep 22 10.21am
Originally posted by Ouzo Dan I'd heard rumours this was happening but thought it was nonsense. Sentenced to death for Protesting. Russia isn't messing about. [Tweet Link] My Russian speaking misses (who is Polish) was telling me about this, this morning. She been reading it in the Russian news. Horrifying if true. There needs to be a mass revolt to kick Putin out but people understandably are terrified to do so. What a sick man.
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