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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 17 Mar 22 8.33am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Would you swap Mitchell for AWB, i know i wouldn't Mitchell is turning in to an exceptional player, (i know they play on the other side)

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 17 Mar 22 8.51am Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

AWB is a RIGHT-back, Tyrick is a LEFT-back.

Nonsensical post.

 


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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 17 Mar 22 8.53am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

I recall Steve Parish discussing the transfer of AWB and describing how reluctant he was to sell a jewel of the academy, but he was persuaded by Freedman and Hodgson.
I remember thinking at the time that you would have thought it would be the other way around with Parish having to do the persuading the football management of the club to sell.
This told me that Hodgson and Freedman saw it as an unbelievable offer and possibly had reservations as to how good AWB would become i.e there were limitations to his game.
So far this has proven to be the case at Man U, but he’s still as good as any right back in an one on one situation and has great timing in the tackle.

Mitchell has certainly exceeded expectations this season.
Very consistent, great tackling statistics and improving when going forward.

Ideally I’d like both, but on current form I’d take Mitchell over AWB.

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 17 Mar 22 8.57am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I recall Steve Parish discussing the transfer of AWB and describing how reluctant he was to sell a jewel of the academy, but he was persuaded by Freedman and Hodgson.
I remember thinking at the time that you would have thought it would be the other way around with Parish having to do the persuading the football management of the club to sell.
This told me that Hodgson and Freedman saw it as an unbelievable offer and possibly had reservations as to how good AWB would become i.e there were limitations to his game.
So far this has proven to be the case at Man U, but he’s still as good as any right back in an one on one situation and has great timing in the tackle.

Mitchell has certainly exceeded expectations this season.
Very consistent, great tackling statistics and improving when going forward.

Ideally I’d like both, but on current form I’d take Mitchell over AWB.

Feels odd that Roy would be part of the out crew. Unless he thought we was going to get the money to spend.

At the time of sale AWB was immense, you never worried when an oppo was attacking down that side as he never got beaten. I'm starting to feel the same way about TM.

I still think AWB is great, just operating in a team where everyone is failing. So hard to judge him based on that.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Mar 22 9.03am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Loved AWB, I hope that is noted, and I wish him all the best for the future. However, he does have his limits and the timing of his 'revelation' seemed to exaggerated through the circumstances.

AWB came in whilst we were still in a siege mentality, relegation battling state. Not many fans were too familiar with him and lo and behold out of nowhere we had this kid at RB who could do a brilliant job in the capacity of nullifying left wing threats. Leggy, decent pace, half decent composure and a nuisance for attacking players. Right place, right time, right club.

Since moving to Manure he has had more expectation put on him by a team who's main intent is to dominate and win games. He is not a flying wing-back and looks well out of his depth past the half way line unfortunately. for near £50mil, or whatever it was, it was worth selling IMHO.

Mitchell looks a more complete player. I think he has more pace then most realise, solid defender, good awareness, doesn't overestimate himself in attack but gets forward, looks composed on the ball. Others may well disagree be he does look a bit like an Ashley Cole: Mark II. Much as he was a failure as a human being, with an intellect lower than his boots, he was a very good LB and Mitchell looks certainly in that mould with possibly more to come.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Mar 22 9.08am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Loved AWB, I hope that is noted, and I wish him all the best for the future. However, he does have his limits and the timing of his 'revelation' seemed to exaggerated through the circumstances.

AWB came in whilst we were still in a siege mentality, relegation battling state. Not many fans were too familiar with him and lo and behold out of nowhere we had this kid at RB who could do a brilliant job in the capacity of nullifying left wing threats. Leggy, decent pace, half decent composure and a nuisance for attacking players. Right place, right time, right club.

Since moving to Manure he has had more expectation put on him by a team who's main intent is to dominate and win games. He is not a flying wing-back and looks well out of his depth past the half way line unfortunately. for near £50mil, or whatever it was, it was worth selling IMHO.

Mitchell looks a more complete player. I think he has more pace then most realise, solid defender, good awareness, doesn't overestimate himself in attack but gets forward, looks composed on the ball. Others may well disagree be he does look a bit like an Ashley Cole: Mark II. Much as he was a failure as a human being, with an intellect lower than his boots, he was a very good LB and Mitchell looks certainly in that mould with possibly more to come.

In these modern times, a great deal more is required of full-backs not least to be an attacking threat and as you mentioned this is not a strength of AWB.
I accept the qualities he shows 1 v 1 but this is not enough in this day and age and one hears the term "Modern full-back".

 

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AWB is an exceptional tackler which seems to be less important for full backs (rather like a goalkeeper who one of Sky’s pundits described as “…brilliant in everything except shot stopping”) but Old Trafford does strange things to some defenders, Maguire? Phil Jones?
If pressed I’d take Mitchell but would welcome AWB back.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Mar 22 9.18am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


AWB is an exceptional tackler which seems to be less important for full backs (rather like a goalkeeper who one of Sky’s pundits described as “…brilliant in everything except shot stopping”) but Old Trafford does strange things to some defenders, Maguire? Phil Jones?
If pressed I’d take Mitchell but would welcome AWB back.

So would I teddy, without hesitation. A cut-price too would put a smirk on my face!

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 17 Mar 22 9.28am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

AWB is rubbish if I was Man United I would sell him back to Palace at a knock down price.

I would love to see him and Mitchell as our fullbacks.

PS Mitchell has a chance of a call up as 3 first choice England fullbacks are injured. C'mon Southgate.

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 17 Mar 22 9.33am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Loved AWB, I hope that is noted, and I wish him all the best for the future. However, he does have his limits and the timing of his 'revelation' seemed to exaggerated through the circumstances.

AWB came in whilst we were still in a siege mentality, relegation battling state. Not many fans were too familiar with him and lo and behold out of nowhere we had this kid at RB who could do a brilliant job in the capacity of nullifying left wing threats. Leggy, decent pace, half decent composure and a nuisance for attacking players. Right place, right time, right club.

Since moving to Manure he has had more expectation put on him by a team who's main intent is to dominate and win games. He is not a flying wing-back and looks well out of his depth past the half way line unfortunately. for near £50mil, or whatever it was, it was worth selling IMHO.

Mitchell looks a more complete player. I think he has more pace then most realise, solid defender, good awareness, doesn't overestimate himself in attack but gets forward, looks composed on the ball. Others may well disagree be he does look a bit like an Ashley Cole: Mark II. Much as he was a failure as a human being, with an intellect lower than his boots, he was a very good LB and Mitchell looks certainly in that mould with possibly more to come.

Not quite sure how you can pass comment on Mitchells as a failure as a human being with a low intellect. Those comments are more relevant to AWB with his well documented court case and how playing for Utd and the money has gone to his head.

They can keep AWB, bit like Bolasie, could never reproduce the same form, once they got a big money move.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Mar 22 9.35am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Not quite sure how you can pass comment on Mitchells as a failure as a human being with a low intellect. Those comments are more relevant to AWB with his well documented court case and how playing for Utd and the money has gone to his head.

They can keep AWB, bit like Bolasie, could never reproduce the same form, once they got a big money move.

Ashley Cole painter, Ashley Cole

Mitchel seems very a likeable, decent young man to me, but no I can't pass comment on him.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 17 Mar 22 9.36am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Solskyaer's plan at Utd was apparently to play AWB on the right of a back three and buy Trippier to play wing back.
This could have worked well with AWB freed up of attacking responsibility and with Trippier knowing he could bomb forward and have AWB covering.
As we know this never happened and the manager got sacked, Trippier eventually joined Newcastle and AWB has lost his place under the interim manager.
Such is the fickle fate of football.

 

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