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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Apr 22 3.02pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You wonder sometimes if WE just has a reflex defence of globalism and hasn't actually looked at what's coming down the pipe and thought it through.

Globalism is. It isn't an option.

You neither defend it, nor attack it. Both are a pointless waste of time and resource.

You accept it, prepare for it and then make it work for you in the best way you can

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Apr 22 3.59pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Tony Blair?

I don't think he had much to do with climate change, Putin, the impact of coronavirus or the stupidity of Brexit.

You are doing what I so often witness in these pages. Make statements about problems without ever making any realistic suggestions on how to overcome them.

All people want to do is look around for people to blame. People who adopted strategies they now believe to be responsible for all that is wrong with our country, and bleat about them endlessly.

When I read this kind of stuff, I am always reminded of Alf Garnett. If only Alf had supported Palace, rather than West Ham, he could have been a popular member of the gang on here, back scratching away in mutual admiration.

Although to be fair to you, Rudi, you are often the most reasonable of the crew.

The problems with mass immigration, especially Islamic, following the invasion of Iraq and getting involved in Afghanistan are far more detrimental and dangerous actually than any of your liberal whines about Brexit ever will be. Many of the problems we’re experiencing now are because the population is being increased beyond what is manageable, let alone sensible. It isn’t inevitable or necessary. Anyway, many will be too poor for essentials so I expect that could be the natural way of addressing the problems.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 Apr 22 4.19pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

With your odious attitudes, you would think that, wouldn't you? It's par for your course.

Those fleeing war could stay in many countries. They could also have many reasons for wanting to come here. Family and language being the obvious ones. To successfully achieve what you want demands the full, uncompromised support of every country on their intended route and for them to insist on people staying with them, against their will. Playing "pass the parcel" is, regrettably, perhaps, much more likely. It always was, but Brexit has made their motivations even stronger.

You can write whatever rules you want, but for them to work requires that they be honoured by all involved, or for us to find ways of forcing them to be. When we are also bound by international conventions, that is just pie in the sky.

Yours is a wish list. It isn't a policy. Yet you "think" I cannot think! Nuts!

I wish you would stop stating the obvious.

The only way for this farce to end is if the voting public voice their disapproval. They need to complain at every opportunity.

They don't need people like you telling them we should just shut up and accept it.

You live in Cornwall. I think that tells us all we need to know.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (03 Apr 2022 4.22pm)

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Apr 22 4.39pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The problems with mass immigration, especially Islamic, following the invasion of Iraq and getting involved in Afghanistan are far more detrimental and dangerous actually than any of your liberal whines about Brexit ever will be. Many of the problems we’re experiencing now are because the population is being increased beyond what is manageable, let alone sensible. It isn’t inevitable or necessary. Anyway, many will be too poor for essentials so I expect that could be the natural way of addressing the problems.

Migration is a fact of modern life. One that as the impact of climate change bites is likely to increase, rather than decrease.

Rather than complain about the religious background of those who end up here, I would prefer to see everyone insisting that every new arrival understands that in return for us accepting them, they must commit to adopting British standards in every way.

That means their religion goes on the back burner behind becoming British. Retaining a cultural identity is perfectly fine, but not at the expense of our own culture.

For many, this is both natural and proudly undertaken. Entry visa requirements already require part of what I want, but I would both like this to go further and for there to be much more oversight with radical and unequivocal action taken with transgressions.

Those who cannot accept making such a commitment, don't get a visa. Those who transgress lose it.

I also want many more restrictions placed on religion on the public square and to see it made an entirely personal matter, practised alone or in the company of fellow believers. I am sometimes accused of being an "extremist" as a result, but there is a hard truth that lies beneath my reasoning.

It's certainly radical, but if some of the things you fear are to be avoided we need to be radical, and raising the drawbridge isn't available.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Apr 22 4.49pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I wish you would stop stating the obvious.

The only way for this farce to end is if the voting public voice their disapproval. They need to complain at every opportunity.

They don't need people like you telling them we should just shut up and accept it.

You live in Cornwall. I think that tells us all we need to know.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (03 Apr 2022 4.22pm)

If you think that just by voting to stop it, it will stop, then you truly are nuts.

Maybe you should get people to vote to abolish taxation whilst you are about it. That would be popular.

Reality exists. It doesn't change via wishes. It changes with policies that are as real as the existing reality. Policies can be thought about just as effectively, sitting on a beach on an island in the South Pacific, as in Croydon. So Cornwall is on the doorstep.

I have yet to hear any that have even a wisp of reality from you.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 Apr 22 5.10pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you think that just by voting to stop it, it will stop, then you truly are nuts.

Maybe you should get people to vote to abolish taxation whilst you are about it. That would be popular.

Reality exists. It doesn't change via wishes. It changes with policies that are as real as the existing reality. Policies can be thought about just as effectively, sitting on a beach on an island in the South Pacific, as in Croydon. So Cornwall is on the doorstep.

I have yet to hear any that have even a wisp of reality from you.

I never said that. Try reading the words and not what is in your depleted brain.

All we hear from you is surrender. You have conceded the heritage and culture of this country on behalf of future generations.

Shame on you.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Apr 22 5.43pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Globalism is. It isn't an option.

You neither defend it, nor attack it. Both are a pointless waste of time and resource.

You accept it, prepare for it and then make it work for you in the best way you can


Globalism is whatever the elites in charge say it is....You are sounding exactly like Blair...the ultimate globalist. He also tries this falsehood, saying that global village societies are some track inevitability....even when these elites refuse to live within them themselves.

The examples against this are actually most of the world. Even in Europe the Ukraine you have an homogenous society....Hungary, Poland.

Stop painting a false picture that countries don't have agency over their own futures.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Apr 22 5.46pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

As long as I have breath in my body, I will criticise those whose politics have worsened clear provable social metrics within my homeland. Those whose politics have increased crime rates, decreased social cohesion, increased economic divides and relative wealth and promoted mental illness onto the mainstream.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Apr 2022 5.47pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 03 Apr 22 6.12pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Globalism is whatever the elites in charge say it is....You are sounding exactly like Blair...the ultimate globalist. He also tries this falsehood, saying that global village societies are some track inevitability....even when these elites refuse to live within them themselves.

The examples against this are actually most of the world. Even in Europe the Ukraine you have an homogenous society....Hungary, Poland.

Stop painting a false picture that countries don't have agency over their own futures.

You do get the impression that the more people you can coerce into some sort of Orwellian nightmare the more effective it will be. Certainly the concept, or even somewhat reality of 'globalism' definitely stinks of this.

It does amaze me that whether you believe such backstories/origins to be true or not, there was in actual fact various tenets established long ago in society, you know, don't murder people, be kind to one another, don't nick stuff etc etc. Yet we still seem to produce and create 'false idols' who supposedly are ever unveiling new philosophical stances apropos 'living as humans' which the rest of us are of course too stupid to, or not worthy of, questioning. I note that my arguments have a very christian foundation however albeit staggering ignorance I am pretty sure such sentiments are echoed throughout religions and denominations but hey, they all thought a 'woman' was easily definable, so what do I know??

 


Here's to you the famous red and blue.....

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Apr 22 6.15pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I never said that. Try reading the words and not what is in your depleted brain.

All we hear from you is surrender. You have conceded the heritage and culture of this country on behalf of future generations.

Shame on you.

You want the "voting public" to "voice" their disapproval. The only way to do that, which has a chance of bringing change, is via the ballot box. Anything else only leads up to that. You don't need too much of a brain to work that out. Even yours will do.

I am far from "surrender". If you actually read what I say, I have ideas and a determination to protect the culture you claim to love, but just blow hot air at.

 

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View Pembroke's Profile Pembroke Flag Bristol 03 Apr 22 6.22pm Send a Private Message to Pembroke Add Pembroke as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I've taken a look a few times and yet to see any balance. Maybe between the far right and the not quite so far right, but nothing that convinced me that I was going to be given a genuinely objective presentation.

I stumbled on an "interview" with David Starkey the other day, who seems to be a frequent contributor. It wasn't an interview at all, as the presenter was frequently interjecting his own opinions.

Starkey claims to be a historian, which he is, of the Tudor period. That doesn't stop him opining on anything else at all, including the history of Russia and Ukraine. He is a professional controversialist. He takes fees for stirring pots.

Whilst clearly intelligent and erudite, I don't think you can trust someone who openly admits to making a career out of disagreeing with people.

He strikes me as coming from a similar mould to Farage.

GB News appears to be an echo chamber for those who feel they don't hear the echoes that circle between their own ears as often as they need them to be reinforced.

Who GB news is far right? Paul Embery? Andrew Doyle? De Piero?

Edited by Pembroke (03 Apr 2022 6.22pm)

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 03 Apr 22 6.23pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Pembroke

Whoon GB news is far right? Paul Embery? Andrew Doyle? De Peiro?

Edited by Pembroke (03 Apr 2022 6.22pm)

Doesn't score as many as he used to these days.

 


Here's to you the famous red and blue.....

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