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Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Jun 22 10.08pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of the many stupid things he has done, this was probably the most stupid. Those MPs were acting in the way MPs are supposed to act. They were using their judgement to decide what was in the country's best interest, risking their political future in the process. In short, they were behaving with the integrity so bereft of Johnson. It was then that his total lack of decency and fitness for office was laid bare. Instead of trying to find ways to heal divisions, he widened them and laid down the path that led to today.

They took a decision (with which you agree) out of concern for the country and good conscience. He took a decision (with which you disagree) out of self interest and contempt.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 06 Jun 22 10.12pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

It wasn’t the single market that caused all the issues, it was the constant erosion of other rights that were nothing to do with the original ideals.

Not workers rights thou- the EU were pretty good on that bit- oh well, zero hours contracts for all it is then!

 

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Omph Flag Liverpool 06 Jun 22 10.46pm Send a Private Message to Omph Add Omph as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Jeremy HUnt who supported Remain but now suddenly claims to be a Leaver.

You don't have to be too clever to see what is going on here.

Starmer already saying he will renegotiate the Brexit deal if he gets in power.

I'd think very carefully if I were a Leaver in the former Red wall or other marginal seats.

A vote for Labour means a back door into the EU again.

We voted for Boris Johnson and until we vote for someone else, the Tory back benchers have no mandate to remove him. I'm sure some of the Remainers in the Tories would even be happy to lose an election to get us back into Europe.

You voted for Boris if you live in Uxbridge - otherwise you voted for your MP. He may want to be president but actually he's just one more MP - that's how our system works.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 06 Jun 22 10.53pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of the many stupid things he has done, this was probably the most stupid. Those MPs were acting in the way MPs are supposed to act. They were using their judgement to decide what was in the country's best interest, risking their political future in the process. In short, they were behaving with the integrity so bereft of Johnson. It was then that his total lack of decency and fitness for office was laid bare. Instead of trying to find ways to heal divisions, he widened them and laid down the path that led to today.

Very funny.

 


COYP

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DANGERCLOSE Flag London 06 Jun 22 11.08pm Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Another win for democracy

Onwards and upwards

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 06 Jun 22 11.18pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Very funny.

That you think so is completely unsurprising. You have never grasped what the job of an MP actually is and seem to think that they are sent to Parliament simply to vote the way their electorate expect them to.

They aren't. They are our representatives. We pay them to study, consult and think and then decide what is in our best interests.

Those that do that, have integrity, especially when they know it's unpopular. Those that feed the popular mood, when they believe it to be a mistake, don't have integrity. They are populists. Like Johnson.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 06 Jun 22 11.27pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That you think so is completely unsurprising. You have never grasped what the job of an MP actually is and seem to think that they are sent to Parliament simply to vote the way their electorate expect them to.

They aren't. They are our representatives. We pay them to study, consult and think and then decide what is in our best interests.

Those that do that, have integrity, especially when they know it's unpopular. Those that feed the popular mood, when they believe it to be a mistake, don't have integrity. They are populists. Like Johnson.

I hope you are not questioning Nadine Dorries integrity Wisbech

 

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The Dolphin Flag 07 Jun 22 5.01am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Closer than I thought it would be and it now makes it difficult for him to stay long term.
However, I would prefer he stayed than slimy Hunt & co take charge as they will be straight back to the EU, cap in hand to ensure that the UK gets well and truly rogered for a very long time.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Jun 22 6.49am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of the many stupid things he has done, this was probably the most stupid. Those MPs were acting in the way MPs are supposed to act. They were using their judgement to decide what was in the country's best interest, risking their political future in the process. In short, they were behaving with the integrity so bereft of Johnson. It was then that his total lack of decency and fitness for office was laid bare. Instead of trying to find ways to heal divisions, he widened them and laid down the path that led to today.

Those MPs were elected in the Mrs May GE after the referendum and they agreed to support Brexit which was the main plank of the manifesto . Once elected they did everything in their power to prevent it.

There was nothing noble about that lying to the electorate and at the Johnson GE none of them survived because the public saw them for what they were. Liars.

The only ones I had sympathy for were the tiny handful around Ken Clarke who was openly a Remainer and told his voters that before the election. At least the public knew what they were voting for then.

 


One more point

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Matov Flag 07 Jun 22 6.59am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Those MPs were elected in the Mrs May GE after the referendum and they agreed to support Brexit which was the main plank of the manifesto . Once elected they did everything in their power to prevent it.


Its amazing how long the shadow of Brexit remains (no pun intended). Two days ago I would have jumped for joy at the thought of Johnson going but when it became clear that Hunt was seen as the man in waiting, I had to hope that Johnson somehow clung on because Hunt is an utter Remain Retard.

Beginning to suspect the divisions of Brexit are now so engrained in us all that there is simply no way back to any kind of unity. Ultimately, it will lead to English nationalism destroying the Union and then we are into unchartered waters.

The Remain side are still intent on getting us back into the EU, by hook or by crook, and the Brexit side will have to essentially promote an England first policy to prevent that. Suspect that the next Government will be essentially dependent on SNP votes and that is going to rip the UK in half.

Dark days ahead.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Jun 22 7.39am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Omph

You voted for Boris if you live in Uxbridge - otherwise you voted for your MP. He may want to be president but actually he's just one more MP - that's how our system works.

You clearly don't understand people.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Jun 22 9.48am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

The choice between Hunt and Starmer is too much even for our electorate. It's like a choice of which ball you want crushed between two bricks.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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