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waddy Flag Highton,Melbourne 01 Jan 23 4.00pm

The “Investors” want to see a ROI - Academy players being Sold
The Stadium “extended/expanded” - more bums on seats
Increase in TV rights payments

Yet unless they Invest in the squad being bottom 6 or holding mid position a number of seasons in a row is not lucrative.

Selling say Wilf will not produce a good payback to go buy bigger players.

So Textor showed his true cards - Palace is not for him so take a hike & sell your share !

As for the other two I’m unsure as they co funded the academy as well as the season ticket sales during Covid mind you.As well as a couple of new players Decoure/Guehi/Andersen/Olise - yet these didn’t cost the money the top 8 spend let’s be honest.Dumping high wages of Bentekeyamoney is a cost save.
Yet PV / DF /SD / SP all know Ward,Clyne,Milo,Jairo & Hughes are struggling to maintain a Premiership fitness level with McArthur likely to struggle next season too.

We have a club with another busy summer on many fronts above - Steve P May well want to sell him share come 2024 once Academy & Main stand is finished.
Unless the other investors decide to put up their share to a Dubai Mega Billionaire whom may not from the Flag we produced during Newcastle game - 2023 is going to an interesting time for us all


 


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we need to unearth gems that do the business for us for a couple season, then sold on for bigger things... I am perfectly fine with us being a stepping stone... if it means we are mid table, comfortable and produce talent and aren't breaking the bank..

I don't want us spending like a top ten club, it's not worth it. It didn't get us anywhere. I want us to be in the spending league, around 16th. and finish around 11th with a cup run.

It's very hard to do, but I would rather get relegated being financially stable and able to handle year or more in the champ than have to sell up and reboot.

 


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Good read from a good source to explain it all.

 

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Good read from a good source to explain it all.

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Everyone seems to be complaining that John Textor won't be increasing his funding of Palace so we won't be buying anyone this Winter but is it really him that will hold us back.

It is normal in cases like this that the shareholders inject fund in pari passu to their shareholdings and it could be Parish's relative lack of funds that may be holding things back

 

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Any chance of a copy and paste for those of us who don't subscribe?

Why has John Textor bought Lyon – and how does it affect Crystal Palace?

By Matt Woosnam and Matt Slater

US businessman John Textor has bought French side Lyon.

Textor’s purchase of Lyon – which was initiated in June – has seen him add a fourth club to his portfolio, which already included Belgian club RWD Molenbeek and Brazilian side Botafogo, as well as a 40 per cent stake in Palace.

So why did he want to buy the Ligue 1 side and what does it all mean for Palace?

Why did Textor want to buy Lyon?

Textor is invested in the multi-club model of ownership, similar to that of the City Football Group and Red Bull, whose stable of clubs is arguably the most successful multi-club group in global football.


Red Bull is the model American disciples of shared ownership cite most often, their family of clubs in Austria, Brazil, Germany and the US having collaborated on player development more successfully than any of the other groups.


Textor owns majority stakes in Molenbeek — competing in the same competition as fellow Palace owner David Blitzer’s S.K. Beveren side — and Botafogo, as well as a 40 per cent stake in Palace. But he sensed an opportunity to expand that portfolio by adding Lyon.

This has been in the background for some time, starting earlier this year before the attempt to make a purchase was formalised. The idea is for Palace and Lyon to sit atop the multi-club model and to benefit from the other clubs, but that all the partnerships are also mutually beneficial.

Botafogo offers an avenue into South American talent, Molenbeek enables them to gain the points required for a Governing Body Endorsement (GBE) — a points-based system in which players from overseas need to earn at least 15 points to be eligible to play for a Premier League or EFL team — and Lyon helps expand the talent pool available.

He has ambitious objectives and believes the only way to compete with the wealthiest clubs is through this multi-club model. Lyon is another step in that direction given its significant resources.


Lyon are one of France’s biggest clubs.
In June, when negotiations were first officially reported by Lyon, Textor said Lyon would be “the epicentre of our new organisation and our investments… the cornerstone of our project”. He said he intended to “bring out the values &#8203;&#8203;of development and self-improvement”.

The plan was to “regain the highest level, in France and in Europe, while respecting the values &#8203;&#8203;of the club’s DNA such as youth, work and self-sacrifice”, with a focus on the academy.

Why did an English football club have a say in who owns a club in France?

As Textor’s shares in Palace have been moved into that new company, Eagle Football Holdings, a review was needed under the Premier League’s Owners and Directors test.

A previous statement from Lyon noted that the purchase of the club by Textor through Eagle Football Holdings was being held up because it required the agreement of the Premier League, who had requested the agreement of Palace’s shareholders.

What is Textor’s long-term ambition?

Textor’s eagerness to pursue a multi-club model is out of keeping with the manner in which Palace have gone about their business since Parish, along with three others, bought the club out of administration in 2010, and then won promotion in 2013.

The argument would be that an element of evolution is required as the landscape changes.

Parish has repeatedly spoken of an ideal scenario being that the entire Palace starting XI would consist of homegrown talent from the local area, schooled through what is now a revamped £20million academy.

He is rightly proud of the club’s dedication to improving the lives of young south Londoners, of bringing them through the youth ranks to star in the first team, and that is one of the reasons focus turned from the stadium redevelopment to the academy first.

Textor agrees with Parish’s faith in the south London talent pool and has deliberately targeted clubs in areas where there is lots of local talent and proven paths to the top of the game. This attitude also explains why he was initially interested in Benfica, as Portugal is both a producer of great players but also an importer of young Brazilian talent, and Molenbeek, as Belgium is another football hotbed.

But Molenbeek’s usefulness in terms of producing big transfer fees is always going to be limited by their size and the unlikelihood that they will ever play in European competitions. That is where stars are created and recognised. It is also where the most GBE points are earned. Simply put, any player who has a Europa League or Europa Conference League campaign on his CV has gone a long way to qualifying for a UK work permit.

So, Textor was always looking for a bigger European club to add to the group as well, hence his move for Lyon. His proposed purchase of a majority stake in the club’s ownership vehicle, OL Group, a listed company, is a far bigger and more complicated investment than his previous football acquisitions.

For his part, Textor has never denied that he requires significant help to complete the deal, which will cost close to £700 million, but his attempts to find that external investment have dragged on for over six months. The original plan was for American billionaire Bill Foley to provide the money, but he pulled out at the end of the summer and decided to buy Bournemouth instead. Textor is understood to have found new partners but it has not been easy. In the meantime, his relationship with Parish is understood to have frayed.

Palace’s situation is further complicated by David Blitzer and Josh Harris, the other two general partners at the club, having launched a takeover bid for Chelsea earlier this year. That bid was unsuccessful, but it cast clear doubt over their long-term commitment to Palace.

It is a potentially awkward situation where only Parish has his attention solely on Palace. He has always held control of the club and has overseen the most successful period in its history by doing things carefully and gradually. Caution, naturally, abounds.


Steve Parish’s other general partners at Crystal Palace are pursuing other ambitions.
But he told the HLTCO podcast that there were opportunities in tapping into the Brazilian market and that there has been success in loaning players (Jake O’Brien and Luke Plange) to Molenbeek. “Generally it’s a plus,” he said of that collaboration, adding that they are using the knowledge of people at those clubs.

The advancement of the academy was a major project and so is the stadium redevelopment. The latter requires significant capital. In 2018, it was anticipated to cost £100 million. Now they will surely be looking at a figure north of that.

But would Blitzer and Harris be prepared to put funding into a long-term project? A united boardroom would certainly make matters easier, too.

An agreement with Sainsbury’s supermarket has been reached over a plot of land needed and Parish has said he hopes to break ground on the project towards the end of 2023.

Will this affect Palace’s plans for the January transfer window?

It is difficult to know. It is in everyone’s interest for Palace to improve the squad in January and Parish told HLTCO that the introduction of five substitutes has made it more important to bolster their numbers.

Patrick Vieira has repeatedly expressed the need to add players but insists it is about finding the right player, with quality preferred over quantity. The main question will be whether the finances are available.

Palace fans will be eager for this to be resolved one way or the other without any impact on the club. Some will welcome the multi-club model, but there will be others who are uncertain of its benefits. Adding another club could make that division more aparent.

Edited by EddieMac (02 Jan 2023 9.32am)

 

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Originally posted by EddieMac

Why has John Textor bought Lyon – and how does it affect Crystal Palace?

By Matt Woosnam and Matt Slater

US businessman John Textor has bought French side Lyon.

Textor’s purchase of Lyon – which was initiated in June – has seen him add a fourth club to his portfolio, which already included Belgian club RWD Molenbeek and Brazilian side Botafogo, as well as a 40 per cent stake in Palace.

So why did he want to buy the Ligue 1 side and what does it all mean for Palace?

Why did Textor want to buy Lyon?

Textor is invested in the multi-club model of ownership, similar to that of the City Football Group and Red Bull, whose stable of clubs is arguably the most successful multi-club group in global football.


Red Bull is the model American disciples of shared ownership cite most often, their family of clubs in Austria, Brazil, Germany and the US having collaborated on player development more successfully than any of the other groups.


Textor owns majority stakes in Molenbeek — competing in the same competition as fellow Palace owner David Blitzer’s S.K. Beveren side — and Botafogo, as well as a 40 per cent stake in Palace. But he sensed an opportunity to expand that portfolio by adding Lyon.

This has been in the background for some time, starting earlier this year before the attempt to make a purchase was formalised. The idea is for Palace and Lyon to sit atop the multi-club model and to benefit from the other clubs, but that all the partnerships are also mutually beneficial.

Botafogo offers an avenue into South American talent, Molenbeek enables them to gain the points required for a Governing Body Endorsement (GBE) — a points-based system in which players from overseas need to earn at least 15 points to be eligible to play for a Premier League or EFL team — and Lyon helps expand the talent pool available.

He has ambitious objectives and believes the only way to compete with the wealthiest clubs is through this multi-club model. Lyon is another step in that direction given its significant resources.


Lyon are one of France’s biggest clubs.
In June, when negotiations were first officially reported by Lyon, Textor said Lyon would be “the epicentre of our new organisation and our investments… the cornerstone of our project”. He said he intended to “bring out the values &#8203;&#8203;of development and self-improvement”.

The plan was to “regain the highest level, in France and in Europe, while respecting the values &#8203;&#8203;of the club’s DNA such as youth, work and self-sacrifice”, with a focus on the academy.

Why did an English football club have a say in who owns a club in France?

As Textor’s shares in Palace have been moved into that new company, Eagle Football Holdings, a review was needed under the Premier League’s Owners and Directors test.

A previous statement from Lyon noted that the purchase of the club by Textor through Eagle Football Holdings was being held up because it required the agreement of the Premier League, who had requested the agreement of Palace’s shareholders.

What is Textor’s long-term ambition?

Textor’s eagerness to pursue a multi-club model is out of keeping with the manner in which Palace have gone about their business since Parish, along with three others, bought the club out of administration in 2010, and then won promotion in 2013.

The argument would be that an element of evolution is required as the landscape changes.

Parish has repeatedly spoken of an ideal scenario being that the entire Palace starting XI would consist of homegrown talent from the local area, schooled through what is now a revamped £20million academy.

He is rightly proud of the club’s dedication to improving the lives of young south Londoners, of bringing them through the youth ranks to star in the first team, and that is one of the reasons focus turned from the stadium redevelopment to the academy first.

Textor agrees with Parish’s faith in the south London talent pool and has deliberately targeted clubs in areas where there is lots of local talent and proven paths to the top of the game. This attitude also explains why he was initially interested in Benfica, as Portugal is both a producer of great players but also an importer of young Brazilian talent, and Molenbeek, as Belgium is another football hotbed.

But Molenbeek’s usefulness in terms of producing big transfer fees is always going to be limited by their size and the unlikelihood that they will ever play in European competitions. That is where stars are created and recognised. It is also where the most GBE points are earned. Simply put, any player who has a Europa League or Europa Conference League campaign on his CV has gone a long way to qualifying for a UK work permit.

So, Textor was always looking for a bigger European club to add to the group as well, hence his move for Lyon. His proposed purchase of a majority stake in the club’s ownership vehicle, OL Group, a listed company, is a far bigger and more complicated investment than his previous football acquisitions.

For his part, Textor has never denied that he requires significant help to complete the deal, which will cost close to £700 million, but his attempts to find that external investment have dragged on for over six months. The original plan was for American billionaire Bill Foley to provide the money, but he pulled out at the end of the summer and decided to buy Bournemouth instead. Textor is understood to have found new partners but it has not been easy. In the meantime, his relationship with Parish is understood to have frayed.

Palace’s situation is further complicated by David Blitzer and Josh Harris, the other two general partners at the club, having launched a takeover bid for Chelsea earlier this year. That bid was unsuccessful, but it cast clear doubt over their long-term commitment to Palace.

It is a potentially awkward situation where only Parish has his attention solely on Palace. He has always held control of the club and has overseen the most successful period in its history by doing things carefully and gradually. Caution, naturally, abounds.


Steve Parish’s other general partners at Crystal Palace are pursuing other ambitions.
But he told the HLTCO podcast that there were opportunities in tapping into the Brazilian market and that there has been success in loaning players (Jake O’Brien and Luke Plange) to Molenbeek. “Generally it’s a plus,” he said of that collaboration, adding that they are using the knowledge of people at those clubs.

The advancement of the academy was a major project and so is the stadium redevelopment. The latter requires significant capital. In 2018, it was anticipated to cost £100 million. Now they will surely be looking at a figure north of that.

But would Blitzer and Harris be prepared to put funding into a long-term project? A united boardroom would certainly make matters easier, too.

An agreement with Sainsbury’s supermarket has been reached over a plot of land needed and Parish has said he hopes to break ground on the project towards the end of 2023.

Will this affect Palace’s plans for the January transfer window?

It is difficult to know. It is in everyone’s interest for Palace to improve the squad in January and Parish told HLTCO that the introduction of five substitutes has made it more important to bolster their numbers.

Patrick Vieira has repeatedly expressed the need to add players but insists it is about finding the right player, with quality preferred over quantity. The main question will be whether the finances are available.

Palace fans will be eager for this to be resolved one way or the other without any impact on the club. Some will welcome the multi-club model, but there will be others who are uncertain of its benefits. Adding another club could make that division more aparent.

Edited by EddieMac (02 Jan 2023 9.32am)

Thanks for posting. I am not sure how I feel about this but am bordering on uneasy

 

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Cheers, much appreciated

Originally posted by EddieMac

Why has John Textor bought Lyon – and how does it affect Crystal Palace?

By Matt Woosnam and Matt Slater

US businessman John Textor has bought French side Lyon.

Textor’s purchase of Lyon – which was initiated in June – has seen him add a fourth club to his portfolio, which already included Belgian club RWD Molenbeek and Brazilian side Botafogo, as well as a 40 per cent stake in Palace.

So why did he want to buy the Ligue 1 side and what does it all mean for Palace?

Why did Textor want to buy Lyon?

Textor is invested in the multi-club model of ownership, similar to that of the City Football Group and Red Bull, whose stable of clubs is arguably the most successful multi-club group in global football.


Red Bull is the model American disciples of shared ownership cite most often, their family of clubs in Austria, Brazil, Germany and the US having collaborated on player development more successfully than any of the other groups.


Textor owns majority stakes in Molenbeek — competing in the same competition as fellow Palace owner David Blitzer’s S.K. Beveren side — and Botafogo, as well as a 40 per cent stake in Palace. But he sensed an opportunity to expand that portfolio by adding Lyon.

This has been in the background for some time, starting earlier this year before the attempt to make a purchase was formalised. The idea is for Palace and Lyon to sit atop the multi-club model and to benefit from the other clubs, but that all the partnerships are also mutually beneficial.

Botafogo offers an avenue into South American talent, Molenbeek enables them to gain the points required for a Governing Body Endorsement (GBE) — a points-based system in which players from overseas need to earn at least 15 points to be eligible to play for a Premier League or EFL team — and Lyon helps expand the talent pool available.

He has ambitious objectives and believes the only way to compete with the wealthiest clubs is through this multi-club model. Lyon is another step in that direction given its significant resources.


Lyon are one of France’s biggest clubs.
In June, when negotiations were first officially reported by Lyon, Textor said Lyon would be “the epicentre of our new organisation and our investments… the cornerstone of our project”. He said he intended to “bring out the values &#8203;&#8203;of development and self-improvement”.

The plan was to “regain the highest level, in France and in Europe, while respecting the values &#8203;&#8203;of the club’s DNA such as youth, work and self-sacrifice”, with a focus on the academy.

Why did an English football club have a say in who owns a club in France?

As Textor’s shares in Palace have been moved into that new company, Eagle Football Holdings, a review was needed under the Premier League’s Owners and Directors test.

A previous statement from Lyon noted that the purchase of the club by Textor through Eagle Football Holdings was being held up because it required the agreement of the Premier League, who had requested the agreement of Palace’s shareholders.

What is Textor’s long-term ambition?

Textor’s eagerness to pursue a multi-club model is out of keeping with the manner in which Palace have gone about their business since Parish, along with three others, bought the club out of administration in 2010, and then won promotion in 2013.

The argument would be that an element of evolution is required as the landscape changes.

Parish has repeatedly spoken of an ideal scenario being that the entire Palace starting XI would consist of homegrown talent from the local area, schooled through what is now a revamped £20million academy.

He is rightly proud of the club’s dedication to improving the lives of young south Londoners, of bringing them through the youth ranks to star in the first team, and that is one of the reasons focus turned from the stadium redevelopment to the academy first.

Textor agrees with Parish’s faith in the south London talent pool and has deliberately targeted clubs in areas where there is lots of local talent and proven paths to the top of the game. This attitude also explains why he was initially interested in Benfica, as Portugal is both a producer of great players but also an importer of young Brazilian talent, and Molenbeek, as Belgium is another football hotbed.

But Molenbeek’s usefulness in terms of producing big transfer fees is always going to be limited by their size and the unlikelihood that they will ever play in European competitions. That is where stars are created and recognised. It is also where the most GBE points are earned. Simply put, any player who has a Europa League or Europa Conference League campaign on his CV has gone a long way to qualifying for a UK work permit.

So, Textor was always looking for a bigger European club to add to the group as well, hence his move for Lyon. His proposed purchase of a majority stake in the club’s ownership vehicle, OL Group, a listed company, is a far bigger and more complicated investment than his previous football acquisitions.

For his part, Textor has never denied that he requires significant help to complete the deal, which will cost close to £700 million, but his attempts to find that external investment have dragged on for over six months. The original plan was for American billionaire Bill Foley to provide the money, but he pulled out at the end of the summer and decided to buy Bournemouth instead. Textor is understood to have found new partners but it has not been easy. In the meantime, his relationship with Parish is understood to have frayed.

Palace’s situation is further complicated by David Blitzer and Josh Harris, the other two general partners at the club, having launched a takeover bid for Chelsea earlier this year. That bid was unsuccessful, but it cast clear doubt over their long-term commitment to Palace.

It is a potentially awkward situation where only Parish has his attention solely on Palace. He has always held control of the club and has overseen the most successful period in its history by doing things carefully and gradually. Caution, naturally, abounds.


Steve Parish’s other general partners at Crystal Palace are pursuing other ambitions.
But he told the HLTCO podcast that there were opportunities in tapping into the Brazilian market and that there has been success in loaning players (Jake O’Brien and Luke Plange) to Molenbeek. “Generally it’s a plus,” he said of that collaboration, adding that they are using the knowledge of people at those clubs.

The advancement of the academy was a major project and so is the stadium redevelopment. The latter requires significant capital. In 2018, it was anticipated to cost £100 million. Now they will surely be looking at a figure north of that.

But would Blitzer and Harris be prepared to put funding into a long-term project? A united boardroom would certainly make matters easier, too.

An agreement with Sainsbury’s supermarket has been reached over a plot of land needed and Parish has said he hopes to break ground on the project towards the end of 2023.

Will this affect Palace’s plans for the January transfer window?

It is difficult to know. It is in everyone’s interest for Palace to improve the squad in January and Parish told HLTCO that the introduction of five substitutes has made it more important to bolster their numbers.

Patrick Vieira has repeatedly expressed the need to add players but insists it is about finding the right player, with quality preferred over quantity. The main question will be whether the finances are available.

Palace fans will be eager for this to be resolved one way or the other without any impact on the club. Some will welcome the multi-club model, but there will be others who are uncertain of its benefits. Adding another club could make that division more aparent.

Edited by EddieMac (02 Jan 2023 9.32am)

 

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Originally posted by EddieMac

Why has John Textor bought Lyon – and how does it affect Crystal Palace?

By Matt Woosnam and Matt Slater

US businessman John Textor has bought French side Lyon.

Textor’s purchase of Lyon – which was initiated in June – has seen him add a fourth club to his portfolio, which already included Belgian club RWD Molenbeek and Brazilian side Botafogo, as well as a 40 per cent stake in Palace.

So why did he want to buy the Ligue 1 side and what does it all mean for Palace?

Why did Textor want to buy Lyon?

Textor is invested in the multi-club model of ownership, similar to that of the City Football Group and Red Bull, whose stable of clubs is arguably the most successful multi-club group in global football.


Red Bull is the model American disciples of shared ownership cite most often, their family of clubs in Austria, Brazil, Germany and the US having collaborated on player development more successfully than any of the other groups.


Textor owns majority stakes in Molenbeek — competing in the same competition as fellow Palace owner David Blitzer’s S.K. Beveren side — and Botafogo, as well as a 40 per cent stake in Palace. But he sensed an opportunity to expand that portfolio by adding Lyon.

This has been in the background for some time, starting earlier this year before the attempt to make a purchase was formalised. The idea is for Palace and Lyon to sit atop the multi-club model and to benefit from the other clubs, but that all the partnerships are also mutually beneficial.

Botafogo offers an avenue into South American talent, Molenbeek enables them to gain the points required for a Governing Body Endorsement (GBE) — a points-based system in which players from overseas need to earn at least 15 points to be eligible to play for a Premier League or EFL team — and Lyon helps expand the talent pool available.

He has ambitious objectives and believes the only way to compete with the wealthiest clubs is through this multi-club model. Lyon is another step in that direction given its significant resources.


Lyon are one of France’s biggest clubs.
In June, when negotiations were first officially reported by Lyon, Textor said Lyon would be “the epicentre of our new organisation and our investments… the cornerstone of our project”. He said he intended to “bring out the values &#8203;&#8203;of development and self-improvement”.

The plan was to “regain the highest level, in France and in Europe, while respecting the values &#8203;&#8203;of the club’s DNA such as youth, work and self-sacrifice”, with a focus on the academy.

Why did an English football club have a say in who owns a club in France?

As Textor’s shares in Palace have been moved into that new company, Eagle Football Holdings, a review was needed under the Premier League’s Owners and Directors test.

A previous statement from Lyon noted that the purchase of the club by Textor through Eagle Football Holdings was being held up because it required the agreement of the Premier League, who had requested the agreement of Palace’s shareholders.

What is Textor’s long-term ambition?

Textor’s eagerness to pursue a multi-club model is out of keeping with the manner in which Palace have gone about their business since Parish, along with three others, bought the club out of administration in 2010, and then won promotion in 2013.

The argument would be that an element of evolution is required as the landscape changes.

Parish has repeatedly spoken of an ideal scenario being that the entire Palace starting XI would consist of homegrown talent from the local area, schooled through what is now a revamped £20million academy.

He is rightly proud of the club’s dedication to improving the lives of young south Londoners, of bringing them through the youth ranks to star in the first team, and that is one of the reasons focus turned from the stadium redevelopment to the academy first.

Textor agrees with Parish’s faith in the south London talent pool and has deliberately targeted clubs in areas where there is lots of local talent and proven paths to the top of the game. This attitude also explains why he was initially interested in Benfica, as Portugal is both a producer of great players but also an importer of young Brazilian talent, and Molenbeek, as Belgium is another football hotbed.

But Molenbeek’s usefulness in terms of producing big transfer fees is always going to be limited by their size and the unlikelihood that they will ever play in European competitions. That is where stars are created and recognised. It is also where the most GBE points are earned. Simply put, any player who has a Europa League or Europa Conference League campaign on his CV has gone a long way to qualifying for a UK work permit.

So, Textor was always looking for a bigger European club to add to the group as well, hence his move for Lyon. His proposed purchase of a majority stake in the club’s ownership vehicle, OL Group, a listed company, is a far bigger and more complicated investment than his previous football acquisitions.

For his part, Textor has never denied that he requires significant help to complete the deal, which will cost close to £700 million, but his attempts to find that external investment have dragged on for over six months. The original plan was for American billionaire Bill Foley to provide the money, but he pulled out at the end of the summer and decided to buy Bournemouth instead. Textor is understood to have found new partners but it has not been easy. In the meantime, his relationship with Parish is understood to have frayed.

Palace’s situation is further complicated by David Blitzer and Josh Harris, the other two general partners at the club, having launched a takeover bid for Chelsea earlier this year. That bid was unsuccessful, but it cast clear doubt over their long-term commitment to Palace.

It is a potentially awkward situation where only Parish has his attention solely on Palace. He has always held control of the club and has overseen the most successful period in its history by doing things carefully and gradually. Caution, naturally, abounds.


Steve Parish’s other general partners at Crystal Palace are pursuing other ambitions.
But he told the HLTCO podcast that there were opportunities in tapping into the Brazilian market and that there has been success in loaning players (Jake O’Brien and Luke Plange) to Molenbeek. “Generally it’s a plus,” he said of that collaboration, adding that they are using the knowledge of people at those clubs.

The advancement of the academy was a major project and so is the stadium redevelopment. The latter requires significant capital. In 2018, it was anticipated to cost £100 million. Now they will surely be looking at a figure north of that.

But would Blitzer and Harris be prepared to put funding into a long-term project? A united boardroom would certainly make matters easier, too.

An agreement with Sainsbury’s supermarket has been reached over a plot of land needed and Parish has said he hopes to break ground on the project towards the end of 2023.

Will this affect Palace’s plans for the January transfer window?

It is difficult to know. It is in everyone’s interest for Palace to improve the squad in January and Parish told HLTCO that the introduction of five substitutes has made it more important to bolster their numbers.

Patrick Vieira has repeatedly expressed the need to add players but insists it is about finding the right player, with quality preferred over quantity. The main question will be whether the finances are available.

Palace fans will be eager for this to be resolved one way or the other without any impact on the club. Some will welcome the multi-club model, but there will be others who are uncertain of its benefits. Adding another club could make that division more aparent.

Edited by EddieMac (02 Jan 2023 9.32am)


Is the relationship between Parish and Texter Frayed because Parish only concern is Palace and Texter is only interested in building his empire and does Texter have enough shares to oust Steve if he sees fit .

 

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Originally posted by waddy

So Textor showed his true cards - Palace is not for him so take a hike & sell your share !

I simply don't understand the animosity towards Textor. For a start, the line "Textor showed his true colours" is completely laughable. He showed his true colours the day he bought into Palace as an I N V E S T O R. Do you not know what an "investor" is? Apparently not, so here's the answer: an investor is someone who invests (the clue's in the name) money in a business in pursuit of a financial return. That's what Textor did. We knew that was what he was doing. And we were happy to take his investment at face value. As it happens, we've done pretty well out of it. Like all investors sooner or later, the time has come when he wants to take his portfolio and invest in another direction. Nothing wrong with that at all. If you expected any other outcome, frankly you're an idiot.

I suspect - this is where reading between the lines begins - that Textor's investment in Palace was at least in part based on the hope that he could expand his ownership share of the club, particularly with (at the time) Blitzer and Harris looking to sell and shift their resources towards Chelsea. When the Chelsea deal fell through (this was really the key moment in the situation we now find ourselves in), any urgency Blitzer and Harris had with regard to divesting their interest in Palace clearly changed and I suspect that's the point when Textor's interest in us, understandably, started to wane and he began to look for another club. I imagine had Harris and Blitzer got Chelsea, Textor was lined up to take on their share in Palace (or at least part of it); but that was taken off the table. His desired endgame didn't work out.

The big question in all this, for me (but it should be for you, too) is "what are Harris and Blitzer doing?" They seem tongue-tied in their approach to the club. There's no apparent urgency to sell their share (though they appear to be quietly open to offers) but at the same time, no desire to really invest in the club either. Thus, we stumble on in a state of neither feast nor famine; doing too well on the pitch for them to feel their investment in a PL side is immediately threatened, yet not well enough for them to want to commit the resources necessary for us to really progress. I think until Harris and Blitzer make a clear decision about their intent, things will remain as they are now, somewhat in stasis. And to be honest, while I understand their position, I think we deserve better than that.

In a perfect world, Harris and Blitzer (who DO have serious money, by the way) would decide, after this period of reflection, to go all-in on Palace and properly engage with the club. Failing that, they'd put us openly on the market and try to attract a top-tier, wealthy bidder. But what it more likely they will do is continue what they're doing now, reaping the benefits of their investment, trying to increase its value, but without putting any more real money in. Their immediate goal will probably be the new stand with its potential for dramatically increased revenue streams which, if they can build it without losing our PL status, would give them a much more saleable asset in three years' time. Furthermore, they'll gamble the economy will have rebounded by then, making it a much more auspicious time to sell the club financially.

If I'm right, I think they will invest what they need to to keep the squad fit-for-purpose in the meantime, but they won't be handing out generous transfer budgets any time soon, more that they'll be relying on the sort of "eye for a bargain" approach that we've used (it must be said, to great effect) so far. So in summary, I don't find our present situation either terribly worrying or particularly inspiring. We are what we are; a mid-tier PL side that's incrementally improving, committed to building off-the-pitch, with generally responsible owners who aren't going to throw money at the wall but who will invest as required to maintain our status. If you think the holy grail is having a sovereign wealth fund from the middle east owning the club then that won't be enough for you. In my view, things could be a whole lot worse.

 


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Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker


Is the relationship between Parish and Texter Frayed because Parish only concern is Palace and Texter is only interested in building his empire and does Texter have enough shares to oust Steve if he sees fit .

Who knows whether or not the relationship between the two is frayed because if it is they are hardly going to discuss it with journalists.

Textor is the largest shareholder with 40% and although he can't oust Parish on his own he could with the other shareholders' backing although I'm not sure why he would want to

 

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