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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 19 Aug 22 9.47am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

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I thought this piece from Anfield Index gives a balanced view of both the red card and Andersen's role in it.

 


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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 19 Aug 22 9.58am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

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I thought this piece from Anfield Index gives a balanced view of both the red card and Andersen's role in it.

Not biased?

It’s also important to point out that the headbutt wasn’t intentional but was the exact outcome that Anderson was looking for. Having shouted at and then shoved Nunez, Anderson anticipated his next move and stepped in as Darwin spun around to go chest to chest with him. As Darwin turned, his forehead caught Anderson on the chin and like a mighty Danish Horse Chestnut tree that had been felt with blows from a Uruguayan axe, the big central defender fell to the floor in what appeared to be slow motion.

This is about the most ridiculous summary since the 'He just walked into him' comment. Nunez moves his head back and then forwards into Andersen's chin. An unbiased account would be: Nunez upset Andersen by putting his head into his face. Andersen responded by shoving him. Nunez headbutted him. Andersen went down dramatically.

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 19 Aug 22 10.02am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Not biased?

It’s also important to point out that the headbutt wasn’t intentional but was the exact outcome that Anderson was looking for. Having shouted at and then shoved Nunez, Anderson anticipated his next move and stepped in as Darwin spun around to go chest to chest with him. As Darwin turned, his forehead caught Anderson on the chin and like a mighty Danish Horse Chestnut tree that had been felt with blows from a Uruguayan axe, the big central defender fell to the floor in what appeared to be slow motion.

This is about the most ridiculous summary since the 'He just walked into him' comment. Nunez moves his back and then forwards into Andersen's chin. An unbiased account would be: Nunez upset Andersen by putting his head into his face. Andersen responded by shoving him. Nunez headbutted him. Andersen went down dramatically.

Andersen went down as any other player would (and is often necessary to draw attention to a red card offence as the useless officials would inevitably miss it), having just been headbutted - would be more accurate for me.

 


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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 19 Aug 22 10.08am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Andersen went down as any other player would (and is often necessary to draw attention to a red card offence as the useless officials would inevitably miss it), having just been headbutted - would be more accurate for me.

You're right with regard to the need to draw attention from the ref, but I do think Andersen is one for amateur dramatics, especially given his size, and the way he falls is quite funny. I agree he has every right to fall down though.

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 19 Aug 22 10.29am Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Klippity is still whinging about it in his presser . . .

"Of course we spoke to Darwin and he was very disappointed with himself. The things that the centre-half [Joachim Andersen] did, he's not the only player in the world doing these kinds of things.

 


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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 19 Aug 22 10.37am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Klippity is still whinging about it in his presser . . .

"Of course we spoke to Darwin and he was very disappointed with himself. The things that the centre-half [Joachim Andersen] did, he's not the only player in the world doing these kinds of things.

No he isn't. and VVD is among them. hypocritical fannyburgler.

 


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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

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I thought this piece from Anfield Index gives a balanced view of both the red card and Andersen's role in it.

Personally I think its absolute horsesh1t of the highest order.

Anderson isn't really known as a hard man, a wind up or the type of player that tries to get anyone sent off. Has he ever done it before? Can you even think of a time where an oppo has squared up to him? Wilf maybe, but if anything our 2 CB are pretty placid.

The clips from the game look like any other defender/forward in any other game. A few little pushes to stop Darwin pinning him. He's not pinching him, or stepping on his toes or doing anything antagonistic. Just defending in a contact sport.

How on earth is JA expecting a headbut after a finger wag and a little push. He was pissed off with Darwin trying to headbud him in the previous phase, so reacted and went to have a word. I highly doubt he was expecting another head but.

 

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Just another example of the 'victim mentality' so beloved of the denizens of Anfield.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Aug 22 12.33pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Personally I think its absolute horsesh1t of the highest order.

Anderson isn't really known as a hard man, a wind up or the type of player that tries to get anyone sent off. Has he ever done it before? Can you even think of a time where an oppo has squared up to him? Wilf maybe, but if anything our 2 CB are pretty placid.

The clips from the game look like any other defender/forward in any other game. A few little pushes to stop Darwin pinning him. He's not pinching him, or stepping on his toes or doing anything antagonistic. Just defending in a contact sport.

How on earth is JA expecting a headbut after a finger wag and a little push. He was pissed off with Darwin trying to headbud him in the previous phase, so reacted and went to have a word. I highly doubt he was expecting another head but.

In the final analysis, Nunez disgracefully assaulted Andersen, yet the narrative appears to be focussing on our central defender with mention of "Sly fouls" and all that hogwash.Deflection away from the perpertrator of the violence.

Indeed Andersen paid Nunez close attention but as has been mentioned there was no punching, violent pushes and shoves,stepping on toes etc etc.Andersen let Nunez know he was in close proximity and this is what one would want from a central defender against a renowned striker.

Welcome to the Premier League Senor Nunez and enjoy watching from the sidelines.

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 19 Aug 22 12.34pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Agreed - they have to put it in a way that doesn't really blame their player.
Always someone elses fault - typical bin dippers!

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Aug 22 12.38pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

Agreed - they have to put it in a way that doesn't really blame their player.
Always someone elses fault - typical bin dippers!

When Puncheon trashed De Bruyne, I don't remember many of us blaming him. Andersen's not hurt at all, just a storm in a teacup. Frankly, the last thing we need is Liverpool counting us as rivals. I find going under the radar a much better way to nick points

 


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Originally posted by ASCPFC

When Puncheon trashed De Bruyne, I don't remember many of us blaming him. Andersen's not hurt at all, just a storm in a teacup. Frankly, the last thing we need is Liverpool counting us as rivals. I find going under the radar a much better way to nick points

I did because it was a waist-high, dangerous foul that could have done great damage. I believe I was the only one. After I'd made my comments, I was accused of wearing a sky blue shirt, almost.

One-eyed fans are nothing new or specific to one particular club.

But yes, JA was 'in his face', as indeed he should've been, letting him know he's there. If you can't live with that, you've no right right to be considered a top-class striker.

 

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