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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 15 Sep 22 10.31am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

These days you can be labelled right wing if you support

Law and Order

The family unit

Personal responsibility

J K Rowling

Free speech

Progress through merit

and so it goes

These labels mean whatever someone wants them to be

 


When the veneer of civility cracks and the abuse starts....sit back, smile and enjoy a point at Anfield

He reaching for the pocket....and it's a long overdue yellow

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 15 Sep 22 10.39am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Sweden only has 7.8 billion voters and they are just as worried about their electricity bills as anything else.

The result, as the previous one, sets up a complex coalition with multiple minor parties.

The narrow loser could easily end up running things in de facto, it is that complicated.

The centre parties, if that's what they are, will not work with the far-right with their 8 seats etc etc.

If I was Swedish I'd want to escape from it all to one of their thousands of uninhabited islands.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 15 Sep 22 10.42am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Sweden only has 7.8 billion voters and they are just as worried about their electricity bills as anything else.

The result, as the previous one, sets up a complex coalition with multiple minor parties.

The narrow loser could easily end up running things in de facto, it is that complicated.

The centre parties, if that's what they are, will not work with the far-right with their 8 seats etc etc.

If I was Swedish I'd want to escape from it all to one of their thousands of uninhabited islands.

7.8 billion. Clearly a typo as that is in fact the whole world

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 15 Sep 22 10.51am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

7.8 billion. Clearly a typo as that is in fact the whole world

Sorry I meant 7.8 millions app.

I was thinking of my electricity bill.


 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Sep 22 11.07am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Sorry I meant 7.8 millions app.

I was thinking of my electricity bill.


Haha

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Flag 15 Sep 22 12.14pm Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


This reminds me of what Mark Twain said about arguing.

Or what Bertrand Russel said about the stupid

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Flag 15 Sep 22 12.21pm Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Cue glazierĒ what exactly does this mean?Ē

Don't worry; I know what you mean, alright. Heh heh

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 15 Sep 22 1.19pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

These days you can be labelled right wing if you support

Law and Order

The family unit

Personal responsibility

J K Rowling

Free speech

Progress through merit

and so it goes

These labels mean whatever someone wants them to be

Apparently stating something such as 'Only women can get pregnant makes you a literal Nazi in this day and age.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 15 Sep 22 1.23pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

These days you can be labelled right wing if you support

Law and Order

The family unit

Personal responsibility

J K Rowling

Free speech

Progress through merit

and so it goes

These labels mean whatever someone wants them to be

Pretty much what you learn at school, if not at home. Well perhaps not the views on transsexuals. Thatís gone from accepting to having bearded men in dresses reading to children in libraries and teaching children that considering and actually changing your gender is normal and to be encouraged.

These morons ignore the thoughts of parents behind closed doors.

 


COYP

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 15 Sep 22 1.44pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Don't worry; I know what you mean, alright. Heh heh

Ha ha, but on a serious note it is not just on colour minority. Thatís not what was the target because fundamentally itís only skin deep. It was more the real minority groups and to discuss that gets you labelled. You get my drift !

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 15 Sep 22 2.04pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Very interesting.

The question is how far right? I'm saying that with genuinely little knowledge or insight. If it is indeed just a reaction to the far left and the meeting of fire with fire, I do fear swinging from one set of ideologues to another doesn't represent progress at all. In this country we have seen everything swing so far left the CONS are essentially the left and the LABS have just become a circus. I wish for the left to be ousted as much as wish not for a too far right govt.

I still maintain we are living in a 'post-common sense' political and social landscape. Oh for centricity and logic!


I think what is too far right is an interesting and valid question just as it is on the left.

The left will always try to reduce that window so that essentially anyone on the right who believes in social conservatism is essentially a Hitler supporter....it isn't an honest or very bright approach but it's worked for them....and that's all they care about. Unfortunately the Tories adapted to this by throwing away social conservatism for social/neo liberalism.

For me the excesses of the right or left can be circumvented by a commitment to certain core beliefs. First among them would be a commitment to free speech. Second to that would be a restraint on political persecution by the state and its proxies....neoliberalism is failing on both these fronts.

Essentially I suppose I'm arguing for social conservatism without the overt authoritarianism.

Of course on the wider scale, as in what's happening in Europe right now none of us get an influence. The rise of the right won't be down to a sudden desire to reject neoliberalism so much as a reflection of the disastrous political and economic choices that globalist minded governments have took over covid, Ukraine and the immigration/crime rate. Even their control of the media can't save them from the ballot box.

What forms the right will take in individual countries will reflect the nature of the right wing there......so in Sweden half of the right is pretty tame whereas in Italy most of the right actually have some balls.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Sep 2022 2.14pm)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 15 Sep 22 2.07pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Or what Bertrand Russel said about the stupid

That's Bertrand Russell.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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