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Originally posted by The groover

Is this a joke? Or have you been a bunker for 2 years!

A 99.9 percent survival rate is little more than a common cold.

 

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Originally posted by The groover

I never said it doesn't affect the respiratory system.

It affects the respiratory system because it effectively thickens the blood. Thus the extremities of the lungs get clogged. Which is why it was first believed to be respiratory.

This is also why it causes other issues. Heart attacks, strokes, liver, kidney, pancreas etc. The blood supply to organs is also affected.

You will note we not longer see people on respirators facing down.

The statement that 'it's just a cold' would make the consultants I worked with want to kick that person in the arse!


So one might wonder why you'd feel the need to argue that it's not a respiratory illness, as this is in fact how it affects the vast majority of those that catch it....which has been pretty much everybody.

As covid spread it reduced in strength as usually happens with a virus over time....I remember saying that and some scare mongers saying otherwise however that's been the predictable direction of travel.

The rise in excess deaths and where the causes are is an interesting debate and something I've been looking into as the data is around from countries that did lockdown and didn't and level of death and so on is out there.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Mar 2023 1.48pm)

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 02 Mar 23 11.12am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

The lessons to be learned from an Enquiry, are :

1. Don't let your Government be run by idiots
2. When you pay scientists to give advice, don't fcking ignore it.
3. All those guzzlers from the Covid contracts fiasco need to be prosecuted.

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 02 Mar 23 11.27am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Hancock implicated way back , already guzzling from the Covid Contracts trough


"Former health secretary Matt Hancock was under pressure on Wednesday to set the record straight over £40m of government Covid-related work won by his former pub landlord after he accused Labour of “fabrication” about the deal.

The Guardian first revealed in November 2020 that a former neighbour in Hancock’s constituency had been awarded work supplying the government with tens of millions of vials for NHS Covid-19 tests despite having had no previous experience of producing medical supplies.

Alex Bourne, who used to run a pub close to Hancock’s former constituency home in Suffolk, said he initially offered his services to the health secretary by sending him a personal WhatsApp message.
Bourne’s company Hinpack did not have a direct contract with the Department of Health and Social Care or the NHS but was subcontracted for the Covid work to a supplier already approved by the NHS, Alpha Laboratories.

Hancock told MPs: “Of course, the Department of Health and the NHS does not have a say in sub-contracting arrangements.”

However, the contract which is between Alpha and the secretary of state for health, and signed by a civil servant on his behalf in December 2020, stipulated that all the work would be subcontracted to Hinpack, the Guardian revealed earlier this year."
(The Guardian, 1/12/2021)

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 02 Mar 23 1.39pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

A 99.9 percent survival rate is little more than a common cold.

Hmm

Case fatality rate currently is 1.02%. Earlier in the pandemic it was 7.53%.

[Link]

For the worst hit group (over 65s), influenza case mortality rate is 0.0022%

[Link]

In addition, 'long Covid' is a very real and nasty issue, particularly bad in many who contracted the disease in the earlier phases.

I can only assume you get your 'knowledge' from dubious internet sites.

 

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I guess in WE's head Facebook banning anyone who mentioned that the virus came from a lab and YT putting disinformation messages and linking to the WHO and then eventually banning anyone outright who was stating that covid was from a lab was just everyone's imagination.

Even mentioning covid meant that the social media sites viewed you negatively.

Methinks he only sees what he wants to see.

Perhaps if he wants to learn about some truths he should start watching 'basement' videos because it looks like his editors and lawyers are sadly falling down on the job.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 02 Mar 23 1.59pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Here's an interesting thing that someone on here may be able to shed some light on...

Today, after several months of ill health, surgery and various subsequent investigations, I got a letter from the NHS advising me that they are sending me a pack of Rapid Lateral Flow tests, and that if I feel any Covid symptoms I am to test for up to 3 consecutive days (if first and subsequent tests are negative and I still feel unwell), as I have been deemed eligible for treatment for Covid if I should contract it.

What the heck is that all about and what is this undefined treatment, I wonder?

As a totally unvaccinated person (medical reasons) should I even be eligible?

It seems that something in your medical history has put you in the high risk category which is why you have been sent the testing kits.

I have exactly the same

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 02 Mar 23 2.48pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Hancock says "Covid leaks are a massive betrayal".

Bur not as massive as the betrayal your wife felt, or the British public felt when you flouted Covid rules and dished out taxpayers money to your mate.

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 02 Mar 23 3.39pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

A 99.9 percent survival rate is little more than a common cold.

That is the rate now. It wasn't in the beginning. I believe the survival rate from the common cold is 100% unless they get run over.

 

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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 02 Mar 23 3.40pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Hmm

Case fatality rate currently is 1.02%. Earlier in the pandemic it was 7.53%.

[Link]

For the worst hit group (over 65s), influenza case mortality rate is 0.0022%

[Link]

In addition, 'long Covid' is a very real and nasty issue, particularly bad in many who contracted the disease in the earlier phases.

I can only assume you get your 'knowledge' from dubious internet sites.

Karen is the font of all knowledge.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 02 Mar 23 4.20pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

I'm not sure why anyone is suprised that the government was driven by optics as much as science.

This is the reality we live in.

It is also far too easy to judge with hindsight.

Let's be completely honest. Whatever the government had done, it would have been criticised by the opposition, 'experts' with opposing ideas and the Leftist media.

There have been victims of government action and there would have been victims of government inaction. It was a no win scenario.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'm not sure why anyone is suprised that the government was driven by optics as much as science.

This is the reality we live in.

It is also far too easy to judge with hindsight.

Let's be completely honest. Whatever the government had done, it would have been criticised by the opposition, 'experts' with opposing ideas and the Leftist media.

There have been victims of government action and there would have been victims of government inaction. It was a no win scenario.

With no way of proving which action was best both financially and emotionally.

 

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