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 ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Dec 22 3.22pm |
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I worked for the NHS in the early 90s. There were more bosses than staff in my section. My office had three staff - there were five managers. One that sticks in my mind was The Site Services Manager. Sounds fine, yet, he was in charge of the car park. It was only a small hospital, there can't be 100 spaces.
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 13 Dec 22 3.33pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I worked for the NHS in the early 90s. There were more bosses than staff in my section. My office had three staff - there were five managers. One that sticks in my mind was The Site Services Manager. Sounds fine, yet, he was in charge of the car park. It was only a small hospital, there can't be 100 spaces. Each of those spaces would only get 3.65 days a year of love and attention though ASCPFC. Sad times.
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eaglesdare  13 Dec 22 4.59pm |
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I know a fair a number of nurses that have quit and gone on to the lip filling business for women. far more money in it!
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cryrst  The garden of England 13 Dec 22 6.59pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
That's great, but it's still a net outcome of - many tens of thousands versus Willo's contribution re new nurses and doctors. 57% of those planning to leave the profession cited 'pay and benefits' as the reason according to YouGov. I don't think it's that complicated. Pay being lower than private and benefits being higher than private. How many private jobs give 3 months full sick pay per annum minimum, a gold plated pension and the ability to get signed off sick cos someone said a hurty word.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 13 Dec 22 7.56pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Pay being lower than private and benefits being higher than private. How many private jobs give 3 months full sick pay per annum minimum, a gold plated pension and the ability to get signed off sick cos someone said a hurty word. It’s hard to know where to start with such lazy s***e but if you think what you earned as an apprentice presumably many decades ago is relevant, I don’t know what to tell you. You also didn’t do 5 years training to get into the role and I’ll take a guess that you weren’t saving lives either. Quite simply, if it was such a decent gig with so many amazing perks there wouldn’t be people leaving in droves and they wouldn’t be struggling to recruit new staff
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| Mapletree Croydon 13 Dec 22 8.48pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Pay being lower than private and benefits being higher than private. How many private jobs give 3 months full sick pay per annum minimum, a gold plated pension and the ability to get signed off sick cos someone said a hurty word. It really isn’t hard to get real facts. I may have mentioned Google to you before Agenda For Change is the document you want: during the first year of service – one month’s full pay and two months’ half pay Do you think nurses don’t have to study? Your apprenticeship is as nothing to the work and cost involved in a nursing degree. Suck it up is what you will be doing sometime soon. If you are lucky someone will hold your straw.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 13 Dec 22 8.55pm |
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The NHS should be for Labour remain voters only.
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Teddy Eagle  13 Dec 22 8.57pm |
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Why not, as long as they're the only ones paying for it.
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| Spiderman Horsham 13 Dec 22 9.01pm |
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Thought there was a lack of beds for those with mental health issues?
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 13 Dec 22 9.34pm |
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and then the stupidity starts in what was a reasonable discussion, well done Steeleye
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| steeleye20 Croydon 13 Dec 22 9.53pm |
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'You can't trust the tories on the NHS'. And of course it is the reality., 7 million people waiting. I've not heard the mantra from Starmer, a rather confused person. You can't win the World Cup under a tory government either, but I don't want to rub it in.
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| Teddy Eagle 13 Dec 22 10.00pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
'You can't trust the tories on the NHS'. And of course it is the reality., 7 million people waiting. I've not heard the mantra from Starmer, a rather confused person. You can't win the World Cup under a tory government either, but I don't want to rub it in.
This is true. Must be the reason East Germany was so much more successful than West.
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