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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 05 Feb 23 1.39pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

If one accepts the argument that Vieira has not been fully backed in the transfer market, the question then becomes has he got the best out of our available resources.
For me the jury is out.
We have all observed the playing of square of square pegs in round holes, the ponderous build up from the back which is so easy for the opposition to contain, the lack of tactical in game changes and the poor work off the ball which appears to be tolerated.
Vieira appears to be likeable, seems to popular with the players and in many ways is a very good fit for Palace.
However, it’s all about results and he has to be able to demonstrate he can take us forward and make the necessary improvements.
At the moment it would difficult to argue that we are moving forward as a team.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Feb 23 1.44pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Its not as simple, as just saying being financed properly and throwing money at everything. Everton tried that, West Ham tried that and both have been frequent visitors to the relegation zone. How much money have spent since Ferguson left about £1.2 billion, only now with a decent manager are they getting back to where they were.

Judging by the achievements of Messrs Mourinho and Van Gaal their record in management is highly commendable.They did not become bad managers as a result of their time at Man Utd.
It never worked out for Ancelotti at Everton and he is another manager with a long-list of achievements.

Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2023 1.49pm)

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Feb 23 1.55pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Some will of have an alternative viewpoint but what I would assert about Lanzo is that he is consistent and unequivocal in his messaging and is sticking to it akin to 'Wrigleys' on a 'Jimmy Choo'.

Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2023 1.15pm)

Ah but he’s not though.

He said in a reply to me that neither he nor I knew if PV was a good manager, but that “ time would tell “.

I did find that strange as he’s clearly already made his mind up

 


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View Vectis's Profile Vectis Flag 05 Feb 23 1.57pm Send a Private Message to Vectis Add Vectis as a friend

Thank you Willo for your kind appreciation of my thoughts

Originally posted by Willo

A commendable contribution to the discussion.
I doff my hat.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Feb 23 1.58pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Vectis

Thank you Willo for your kind appreciation of my thoughts

Thank you for your response.
You are most welcome.

 

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View Swindy's Profile Swindy Flag Bromley 05 Feb 23 2.01pm Send a Private Message to Swindy Add Swindy as a friend

So Painter,
Do you not agree that we have players who need upgrading ?
This, would need funding but not necessarily 'as simple as throwing money about' !

 

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View Runningman's Profile Runningman Flag Keston 05 Feb 23 2.36pm Send a Private Message to Runningman Add Runningman as a friend

Be good to tot how much Chelsea has spent on strikers during the time Palace have been in the Prem…..Willo ?

 

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View Far away fan's Profile Far away fan Flag On the border of jungle 05 Feb 23 3.07pm Send a Private Message to Far away fan Add Far away fan as a friend

Look at Nottingham forest joined us, in the table, this year we are in a relegation battle and that it hard to believe, the writing has been on the wall last couple of seasons, spending has been dismissal for new players, trying to stay in the Premier league on the cheap, if not this season will happen next season,

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 05 Feb 23 3.33pm Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

I have to smile, Chelsea have spent all those millions & bought in another 8 players this window (or is it 9) & still there are clickbait articles almost every day saying that they must buy this player at 30 / 40 / 50 million because he is the answer to their problem(s) - IDK if they have spent 500 million & still have problems to solve that only buying more players will solve then we are really up a creek without a paddle

Originally posted by Runningman

Be good to tot how much Chelsea has spent on strikers during the time Palace have been in the Prem…..Willo ?

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 05 Feb 23 3.34pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Ah but he’s not though.

He said in a reply to me that neither he nor I knew if PV was a good manager, but that “ time would tell “.

I did find that strange as he’s clearly already made his mind up

I think you know my thoughts, He is by far the worst manager since Holloway, and will take us down.

 


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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 05 Feb 23 3.36pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

You dont seem to understand, Vieira doesnt buy the players, Freeman does. Its the same at every other Premier club.

How would you of spent the money, 15 new players have been brought in since June 21.

Do you seriously think Viera has no input into who we buy.

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 05 Feb 23 3.41pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Swindy

So Painter,
Do you not agree that we have players who need upgrading ?
This, would need funding but not necessarily 'as simple as throwing money about' !

A decision was made at the end of Hodgsons tenure to change our policy of buying expensive has players in their late 20s early 30s and buy young players with potential, £126m has been spent since June 21 with very little in return from transfers out. It was generally accepted there would be a transitional period, Vieira did better than expected in his first season and expected continual improvement, its not that easy.
Every supporter of any team would say they have players that need upgrading.

 

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