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View TheGreatGorbo's Profile TheGreatGorbo Flag sunbury 09 Apr 23 5.44pm Send a Private Message to TheGreatGorbo Add TheGreatGorbo as a friend

Personally I think Patrick was unlucky with the fixture list after Xmas , ten tough games, never been a fan of shlupp and couldn’t understand why he started almost every game, under Roy he looks a completely different player now

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 09 Apr 23 6.03pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by TheGreatGorbo

Personally I think Patrick was unlucky with the fixture list after Xmas , ten tough games, never been a fan of shlupp and couldn’t understand why he started almost every game, under Roy he looks a completely different player now

PV wasn't unlucky, he was a totally clueless individual without an ounce of get up and go, and the capacity to appoint a complete no-mark as his assistant, he should've been sacked in February. in two games we have won both, scored six goals and had 47 shots, PVs last 17 games, 1 win, 7 goals, Pathetic.

 


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View CpfcWeTrust1's Profile CpfcWeTrust1 Flag 09 Apr 23 6.12pm Send a Private Message to CpfcWeTrust1 Add CpfcWeTrust1 as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

PV wasn't unlucky, he was a totally clueless individual without an ounce of get up and go, and the capacity to appoint a complete no-mark as his assistant, he should've been sacked in February. in two games we have won both, scored six goals and had 47 shots, PVs last 17 games, 1 win, 7 goals, Pathetic.

Agreed. Considering Vieira hasn't been playing Eze, the team didn't look confident, none of the basics looked anywhere near up to scratch. (Passing, pressing, chasing down players, shooting, link up play etc) I'm not sure Vieira would've got the team going. What ever Roy has done with the lads in a short period, it seems to work and shows that the calibre of players we do have may be light in terms of squad numbers but the players we do have, are capable of putting in a shift and performance with the right personell coaching them.

 

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View TheGreatGorbo's Profile TheGreatGorbo Flag sunbury 09 Apr 23 6.44pm Send a Private Message to TheGreatGorbo Add TheGreatGorbo as a friend

Lanzo all I’m not a Patrick lover he just hit a very tough run of fixtures a couple of wins in there and maybe he would have survived, that’s football for you , Roy has been given a run of winnable fixtures with a very talented team , will be interesting if he makes it as a manager in the future somewhere else

 

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View OneMax's Profile OneMax Flag Maidstone 09 Apr 23 6.54pm Send a Private Message to OneMax Add OneMax as a friend

Roy has made some slight but important changes, playing Eze on the right. Ward at right back (more offensive) and it would appear giving the players more freedom and confidence. I am sure there is much more but what ever it is working.

 

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View Vectis's Profile Vectis Flag 09 Apr 23 7.33pm Send a Private Message to Vectis Add Vectis as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

PV wasn't unlucky, he was a totally clueless individual without an ounce of get up and go, and the capacity to appoint a complete no-mark as his assistant, he should've been sacked in February. in two games we have won both, scored six goals and had 47 shots, PVs last 17 games, 1 win, 7 goals, Pathetic.

Absolutely agree. Being pedantic it’s scored 7 in last two games. Tired of hearing Vieira had a tough run of fixtures. I believe in his last 15 games in charge there was only one win and 8 points earned. That’s getting on for half a season of matches. Pathetic performance and at any club would have led to the sack well before it came. Surrounding himself with inadequate coaching staff with apparently a softly softly approach only ever allowed (thus the exit of Sean Derry) just compounded his inadequacies. That a 75 year old dragged out of retirement can bring about such a transformation in less than 3 weeks tells you all you need to know about the difference between a poor manager and a good one. Well done Roy and Ray!

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 09 Apr 23 7.36pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Do you seriously think Roy or Patrick would want that.

Mr Hodgson is coming to the end of his managerial time and PV is/was beginning.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 09 Apr 23 7.42pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Both Roy and Vieira had very good records against teams below us (Vieira's was actually better than Roy's, albeit over a shorter period). Would Roy have got more points from our run of fixtures after Christmas? Old Roy suggests not, but new Roy suggests possibly! Roy was right today when he said after the game that you have to enjoy these days knowing darker ones are always round the corner. Whichever way you look at it our fixture list was stupid this season and I think it really dented the players' (and Vieira's) confidence. I think changing manager just before the so-called easier games was good timing, but we'll never know if PV would have got the same results. Remember it was similar earlier in the season when Leeds dominated, when 1-0 up and then second half they ran out of steam we were the better team and ended up winning with an Eze goal from an Olise cross.

Whatever the case, let's make hay while the sun shines.

I dont think Parish will be asking Vieira to return and help out, like he has with Roy.

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Made in Bromley 09 Apr 23 7.50pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Mr Hodgson is coming to the end of his managerial time and PV is/was beginning.

Vieira’s been managing for 10 years now!!

 

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View derfes's Profile derfes Flag upper norwood 09 Apr 23 7.54pm Send a Private Message to derfes Add derfes as a friend

Originally posted by monkey

Vieira’s been managing for 10 years now!!

if that is what 10 years of managerial experience gets you , no wonder parish wanted someone with at least 50.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 09 Apr 23 8.05pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

I dont think Parish will be asking Vieira to return and help out, like he has with Roy.

It's all about experience, why should Roy's time in football not be shared on the touchline with Viera.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 09 Apr 23 9.27pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

It's all about experience, why should Roy's time in football not be shared on the touchline with Viera.

Who is Viera?

 

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