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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 02 Sep 23 1.26am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

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Those who gloated at the supposed failure of the economy vs others now have to digest large chunks of humble pie.

Let's see how the Guardian reports this, if at all.

One wonders how many of these ONS/BoE et al errors are accidental

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 Sep 23 8.42am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

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Those who gloated at the supposed failure of the economy vs others now have to digest large chunks of humble pie.

Let's see how the Guardian reports this, if at all.

One wonders how many of these ONS/BoE et al errors are accidental

This has already been discussed in the Coronavirus thread, where it is more appropriate as Brexit is not even mentioned in that article.

This is all about our post pandemic recovery and the message, if there is one, is of the success of our pandemic strategy.

That the ONS revise their estimates when better data is available is to be welcomed, not condemned. The revisions are relatively minor and carry significant caveats. It seems we continue to use GDP as the base of our statistics whilst other countries are using a more sophisticated analysis better suited to todayís economic conditions. One that causes some doubt about the reliability of ours. Which is probably why international investors continue to shun UK opportunities.

 

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View newickeagle's Profile newickeagle Flag Newick, E Sussex 02 Sep 23 9.15am Send a Private Message to newickeagle Add newickeagle as a friend

When are people going to get over this? I voted remain, would vote to rejoin given the chance. BUT, it is what it is, make the best of being out and stop insulting those who voted to stay. Remoaners is a derogative term, grow up.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 02 Sep 23 9.27am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by newickeagle

When are people going to get over this? I voted remain, would vote to rejoin given the chance. BUT, it is what it is, make the best of being out and stop insulting those who voted to stay. Remoaners is a derogative term, grow up.

It's not much of a derogatory term compared to the accusations of racism, xenophobia, bigotry and outright stupidity regularly levelled at leavers.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 Sep 23 9.36am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It's not much of a derogatory term compared to the accusations of racism, xenophobia, bigotry and outright stupidity regularly levelled at leavers.

Surely that depends on whether itís deserved or not?

Not all those who voted leave deserve any of those accusations. Some were sincerely convinced we would be better placed outside the EU.

Some though do.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 02 Sep 23 9.56am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Surely that depends on whether itís deserved or not?

Not all those who voted leave deserve any of those accusations. Some were sincerely convinced we would be better placed outside the EU.

Some though do.

And some remainers thinks itís all those who voted to stay !

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 02 Sep 23 10.21am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Surely that depends on whether itís deserved or not?

Not all those who voted leave deserve any of those accusations. Some were sincerely convinced we would be better placed outside the EU.

Some though do.

That's the difference. All remoaners deserve the title by virtue of, you know, moaning.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 02 Sep 23 12.23pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This has already been discussed in the Coronavirus thread, where it is more appropriate as Brexit is not even mentioned in that article.

This is all about our post pandemic recovery and the message, if there is one, is of the success of our pandemic strategy.

That the ONS revise their estimates when better data is available is to be welcomed, not condemned. The revisions are relatively minor and carry significant caveats. It seems we continue to use GDP as the base of our statistics whilst other countries are using a more sophisticated analysis better suited to todayís economic conditions. One that causes some doubt about the reliability of ours. Which is probably why international investors continue to shun UK opportunities.

Exactly and that was my point on the other thread. I'm glad we finally agree on something.

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 02 Sep 23 12.52pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It's not much of a derogatory term compared to the accusations of racism, xenophobia, bigotry and outright stupidity regularly levelled at leavers.

This

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 02 Sep 23 12.56pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by newickeagle

When are people going to get over this? I voted remain, would vote to rejoin given the chance. BUT, it is what it is, make the best of being out and stop insulting those who voted to stay. Remoaners is a derogative term, grow up.

If you're not a remoaner then this doesn't apply to you.

Derogatory? Not in my view.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 Sep 23 1.10pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

That's the difference. All remoaners deserve the title by virtue of, you know, moaning.

Untrue. The term is frequently used to embrace all of those who voted to remain. Some, like myself, continue to regard it as a mistake which hopefully in time will be corrected, but arenít moaning about the past event. Thatís done. The focus is now only on the future. If a debate arises about some of the things that happened then perhaps comments will be made but only in the context of learning the lessons in the hope they wonít be repeated. Thatís not moaning about the past. Itís preparing for the future.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 Sep 23 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Exactly and that was my point on the other thread. I'm glad we finally agree on something.

Which it seems the ONS accept and are seeking ways to improve.

You were inferring incompetence and deliberate misinformation. Itís not either. I do we can agree on that.

 

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