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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 22 Sep 23 2.38pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

He was a major public figure. I see no issue on being able to reappraise his status in light of footage and content from the time, along with these new allegations. Also in public.

Moral, ethical and social judgement – absolutely. Being held to account is the absolute minimum for any public figure

Those judgements are a moveable feast. For one generation sexual promiscuity was reprehensible but for the next was accepted. Now it seems the wheel has turned again. Criminal behaviour must be punished but morality is subjective.

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 22 Sep 23 2.58pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Those judgements are a moveable feast. For one generation sexual promiscuity was reprehensible but for the next was accepted. Now it seems the wheel has turned again. Criminal behaviour must be punished but morality is subjective.

You talk as though his behaviour was normal for the time – anything but

Promiscuity is one thing, then there's Brand

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 22 Sep 23 3.15pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

You talk as though his behaviour was normal for the time – anything but

Promiscuity is one thing, then there's Brand

Yes, I fully accept that but it's still a subjective judgement. As I said there isn't a quota and provided his "relationships" were consensual what he's done is legal.
Of course if he's broken any laws he should face the consequences.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 22 Sep 23 3.49pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

You talk as though his behaviour was normal for the time – anything but

Promiscuity is one thing, then there's Brand


High promiscuity is normal for a subset of people and always has been.

I think it's perfectly valid to criticise that, it's an increasing negative for society the higher that subset of people is.

In fact social media has enabled a situation that has worsened that particular situation but that's another thread.

The point is about legality. In my view any social liberals are hypocrites to criticise Brand for a promiscuous lifestyle as they 'celebrate' and encourage diverse lifestyles. But then are keen to criticize the negative outcomes of them when the cause and affect has always been obvious to anyone willing to connect dots....it's hardly new knowledge.

I'll repeat my view that if shagging 16 year olds is morally wrong...then why is it legal?

Personally I agree that significant age differences of males shagging 16 year olds is just wrong. So I'd ask why doesn't the law reflect that? Social liberals need to pressurise for a change in the law, social conservatives would back them on that.

Or raise the age of consent, whatever it is.

However, being happy with the law but then shaming people who take advantage of it seems very much like having a cake and eating it too.


Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Sep 2023 3.52pm)

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 22 Sep 23 4.12pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

You talk as though his behaviour was normal for the time – anything but

Promiscuity is one thing, then there's Brand

Was for me back then.

 


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When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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Further speaking to the opinion that Brand just isn't important enough for any political action to be taken against him....that committee letter pretty much knocks that out of the park....but there's more that illustrates that it's not all just about ethics but far more than that.

There are several situations like this but to speak of one on Youtube there is a rapper called Tory Lanez. This guy shot a woman in the feet all while telling her to 'dance, bitch'.

It isn't an allegation, no it was proven in court and he was convicted to ten years in jail.

He has a Youtube channel and it's monetised.

Yet we are asked to believe that they aren't out to get Brand and that despite him being how he was for decades with nothing done, it's all just organic.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Sep 2023 4.18pm)

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 22 Sep 23 4.30pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Further speaking to the opinion that Brand just isn't important enough for any political action to be taken against him....that committee letter pretty much knocks that out of the park....but there's more that illustrates that it's not all just about ethics but far more than that.

There are several situations like this but to speak of one on Youtube there is a rapper called Tory Lanez. This guy shot a woman in the feet all while telling her to 'dance, bitch'.

It isn't an allegation, no it was proven in court and he was convicted to ten years in jail.

He has a Youtube channel and it's monetised.

Yet we are asked to believe that they aren't out to get Brand and that despite him being how he was for decades with nothing done, it's all just organic.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Sep 2023 4.18pm)

YouTube's position does not make sense. At least Rumble's position whether you agree or disagree with it does. Rumble told the MPs committee to get stuffed citing freedom of speech.

YouTube's position is "We are shocked by these allegations so we will stop RB earning any money, but we wont take down his videos".

In other words the only people earning money out of this is YouTube as people view RB's content to find out what the fuss is about and presumably then go on to watch other non RB content.

If your wondering what that smell is it's BS and hypocrisy. If they had banned his content that at least is a logical position.

 


One more point

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 22 Sep 23 4.54pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

I saw Emily Maitlis interview about her interview with Brand and thought it interesting. Here it is:-

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I bet at least one poster here won’t enjoy the idea that he might have been groomed.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 22 Sep 23 5.01pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This guy shot a woman in the feet all while telling her to 'dance, bitch'.

......convicted to ten years in jail.

He has a Youtube channel and it's monetised.

...why am i not surprised? Rappers get way more leeway than Conservatives.

 


the 'Net-We-had' at the Etihad....again

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 22 Sep 23 5.09pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

as far as i can see : Russell Brand, and anybody else, can shag EVERYTHING and drop nuclear weapons on cities. All fine and dandy. So long as they do not speak out against the Mainstream ideology of the Culture War......

- LGBTQ+
- BLM

- Climate change
- feminism

- Refugees are welcome
- Covid, aaarrrggghhh

- abortion, eugenics, high welfare for single mums,
- Christianity bad, all other religions are cool & ALTERNATIVE.

 


the 'Net-We-had' at the Etihad....again

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 22 Sep 23 6.07pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

When does anybody speak in favour of these things? Speaking out about prejudice against them isn’t the same thing at all.

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

as far as i can see : Russell Brand, and anybody else, can shag EVERYTHING and drop nuclear weapons on cities. All fine and dandy. So long as they do not speak out against the Mainstream ideology of the Culture War......

- LGBTQ+ You might find positive statements in specialist magazines but in the mainstream only expressions of a need for tolerance.
- BLM Is explained and some of the claims debunked. Never promoted.

- Climate change Is real and as the biggest issue facing humanity needs to be discussed positively.
- feminism What is wrong with recognising the rights and needs of half of us?

- Refugees are welcome Only when legal and needed. Tolerance, care and human kindness is though to be positively encouraged.
- Covid, aaarrrggghhh Who on earth would promote Covid. Trying to overcome it the most effective way needs to be promoted.

- abortion, eugenics, high welfare for single mums, Abortion divides opinion, so no one will ever be satisfied. No one promotes eugenics in the MSM. No one promotes higher than necessary welfare for anyone.
- Christianity bad, all other religions are cool & ALTERNATIVE.Untrue. No one outside the specialist religious press promotes any religion, except perhaps the likes of the Mail, and that would be Christianity. For many of us, all religions are bad.

iIn short this is a load of bs

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (22 Sep 2023 6.09pm)

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 22 Sep 23 6.08pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

I never found Russell Brand funny at all.
However, his current predicament, although very serious, just for me is the funniest thing he's ever done.

 


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