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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Jan 24 12.18pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I doubt O'Brien was already twenty. Maybe he was - I haven't looked. Jake O'Brien was 19 when we signed him on Loan and was 20 when we signed him on a permanent deal. I believe he sees himself as a ball-playing central defender.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Jan 24 12.18pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I doubt O'Brien was already twenty. Maybe he was - I haven't looked.

Jake O'Brien was 19 when we signed him on Loan and was 20 when we signed him on a permanent deal.
I believe he sees himself as a ball-playing central defender.

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 24 Jan 24 1.13pm
I knew about the Munoz rumour, but, didn't know about Adam Wharton of Blackburn . . . [Link] I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold, When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul. [Link]
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eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 24 Jan 24 1.13pm

I knew about the Munoz rumour, but, didn't know about Adam Wharton of Blackburn . . . [Link]

I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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Midlands Eagle 24 Jan 24 2.08pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 I knew about the Munoz rumour, but, didn't know about Adam Wharton of Blackburn It was mooted some while ago but had since gone quiet
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Originally posted by eagleman13

I knew about the Munoz rumour, but, didn't know about Adam Wharton of Blackburn

It was mooted some while ago but had since gone quiet

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taylors lovechild 24 Jan 24 2.18pm
Blackburn seem well rooted in midtable so they might be open to a deal for Wharton, especially if their financial issues are true. The lad has been receiving a lot of plaudits and seems a real talent and would be an upgrade on Hughes, I think.
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Blackburn seem well rooted in midtable so they might be open to a deal for Wharton, especially if their financial issues are true. The lad has been receiving a lot of plaudits and seems a real talent and would be an upgrade on Hughes, I think.

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slubglurge welling 24 Jan 24 2.36pm
He's 19 Roy will give him 10 mins when we're 3-0 down and then blame him for the loss
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slubglurge

welling 24 Jan 24 2.36pm

He's 19 Roy will give him 10 mins when we're 3-0 down and then blame him for the loss

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Elphers40 Northants 24 Jan 24 8.15pm
I’ve been paying particular attention to Blackburn since the rumours linking us to him surfaced a few months ago. He’s a very good passer of the ball with really good spacial awareness and vision. A bit lightweight (but he is still very young) and not as mobile/athletic as I’d like but he is one of those players that is clearly too good for his current team. (A little bit like Eze and Olise at the moment). In a team based around keeping the ball he’d be ace - kinda like a lanky Jack Wilshire.
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Elphers40

Northants 24 Jan 24 8.15pm

I’ve been paying particular attention to Blackburn since the rumours linking us to him surfaced a few months ago.
He’s a very good passer of the ball with really good spacial awareness and vision. A bit lightweight (but he is still very young) and not as mobile/athletic as I’d like but he is one of those players that is clearly too good for his current team. (A little bit like Eze and Olise at the moment).

In a team based around keeping the ball he’d be ace - kinda like a lanky Jack Wilshire.

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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 24 Jan 24 8.22pm
More Muñoz stuff… [Link]
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Phil’s Barber

Crowborough 24 Jan 24 8.22pm

More Muñoz stuff…

[Link]

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MonsterMunch Cambridge 24 Jan 24 8.25pm
Originally posted by slubglurge He's 19 Roy will give him 10 mins when we're 3-0 down and then blame him for the loss Exactly. No point him joining us to sit on our bench at best. He’s better advised to wait until the summer
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MonsterMunch

Cambridge 24 Jan 24 8.25pm

Originally posted by slubglurge

He's 19 Roy will give him 10 mins when we're 3-0 down and then blame him for the loss

Exactly. No point him joining us to sit on our bench at best. He’s better advised to wait until the summer

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MonsterMunch Cambridge 24 Jan 24 8.29pm
Originally posted by slubglurge He's 19 Roy will give him 10 mins when we're 3-0 down and then blame him for the loss Exactly. No point him joining us to sit on our bench at best. He’s better advised to wait until the summer Exactly the same for Munoz. Does anyone truly believe Roy won’t play Ward and Clyne ahead of him. Roy doesn’t play new players full stop. I have no idea why Roy even comments on anything recruitment wise.
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MonsterMunch

Cambridge 24 Jan 24 8.29pm

Originally posted by slubglurge

He's 19 Roy will give him 10 mins when we're 3-0 down and then blame him for the loss

Exactly. No point him joining us to sit on our bench at best. He’s better advised to wait until the summer

Exactly the same for Munoz. Does anyone truly believe Roy won’t play Ward and Clyne ahead of him. Roy doesn’t play new players full stop. I have no idea why Roy even comments on anything recruitment wise.

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Elpis In a pub 25 Jan 24 8.35am
Originally posted by Phil’s Barber More Muñoz stuff… [Link] Sounds like one of those where his club will squeeze everything they can out of the deal . If it happens will likely go to the wire And we still need a striker
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Elpis

In a pub 25 Jan 24 8.35am

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

More Muñoz stuff…

[Link]

Sounds like one of those where his club will squeeze everything they can out of the deal . If it happens will likely go to the wire

And we still need a striker

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grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 25 Jan 24 1.25pm
Originally posted by Peter de Lisle Apologies, my message might not have been clear - it was meant to be slightly tongue in cheek. You'd absolutely expect a scouting department worth their salt to have detailed data on every professional player playing in England, and most other countries too. My view is that the signings have been so bad in the last year and a half (Lerma aside) that we as fans have a reasonable right to question what the hell the scouting/signings team and Dougie Freedman (who is literally employed to oversee the finding of good players to enhance our team) have actually been doing. I understand Dougie is a Palace legend, but there comes a stage when the inability to sign people to enhance our team has an enormously detrimental impact on the club itself. If we go down, which I think there is a very, very real chance of us doing, I personally will see that as the fault of Dougie Freedman and his team. Every day that goes past that he misses another good loan or free signing that could have done a job for us (Ben Brereton Diaz, Fabio Carvalho, Ross Barkley, even old Andros, Ashley Young, Asmir Begovic (would've been preferable to wasting half the budget on Henderson), James Milner, Manuel Lanzini, the list goes on), coupled with the fact that the club haven't used either loan slot, or seemingly tried to sign anyone performing really well in the Championship - you have to wonder what he is actually looking at and what he's actually doing. I would rather see the fan's frustration aimed at him and his team, who have royally, royally shafted the club by doing such a substandard job of adequately manning the squad. The reality is everyone is desperate not to criticise Dougie as he was a good striker for us. Let's call it what it is though - the last three transfer windows (this one included), apart from signing Jefferson Lerma, have been an unmitigated disaster and that is why we are where we are. Do I think Mourinho would be doing a better job with the players available and fit currently? I do not. Have you even taken a look at our clubs scouts no I do not expect you have. A large % of scouting is done using software so people like to throw out the FM like it's a funny joke but the data used in that game does tend to come from legit sources. You have no clue what DF does or really his full role also he may well be coming up with lots of positives but if SP says no that is it. How do you know if any of those players you listed would even want to come to the club you don't and again $$$$ (VPN) - [Link] (Alt VPN) - [Link]
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Originally posted by Peter de Lisle

Apologies, my message might not have been clear - it was meant to be slightly tongue in cheek. You'd absolutely expect a scouting department worth their salt to have detailed data on every professional player playing in England, and most other countries too. My view is that the signings have been so bad in the last year and a half (Lerma aside) that we as fans have a reasonable right to question what the hell the scouting/signings team and Dougie Freedman (who is literally employed to oversee the finding of good players to enhance our team) have actually been doing.

I understand Dougie is a Palace legend, but there comes a stage when the inability to sign people to enhance our team has an enormously detrimental impact on the club itself. If we go down, which I think there is a very, very real chance of us doing, I personally will see that as the fault of Dougie Freedman and his team.

Every day that goes past that he misses another good loan or free signing that could have done a job for us (Ben Brereton Diaz, Fabio Carvalho, Ross Barkley, even old Andros, Ashley Young, Asmir Begovic (would've been preferable to wasting half the budget on Henderson), James Milner, Manuel Lanzini, the list goes on), coupled with the fact that the club haven't used either loan slot, or seemingly tried to sign anyone performing really well in the Championship - you have to wonder what he is actually looking at and what he's actually doing.

I would rather see the fan's frustration aimed at him and his team, who have royally, royally shafted the club by doing such a substandard job of adequately manning the squad. The reality is everyone is desperate not to criticise Dougie as he was a good striker for us. Let's call it what it is though - the last three transfer windows (this one included), apart from signing Jefferson Lerma, have been an unmitigated disaster and that is why we are where we are. Do I think Mourinho would be doing a better job with the players available and fit currently? I do not.

Have you even taken a look at our clubs scouts no I do not expect you have.

A large % of scouting is done using software so people like to throw out the FM like it's a funny joke but the data used in that game does tend to come from legit sources.

You have no clue what DF does or really his full role also he may well be coming up with lots of positives but if SP says no that is it.

How do you know if any of those players you listed would even want to come to the club you don't and again $$$$

(VPN) - [Link]
(Alt VPN) - [Link]

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Peter de Lisle London 25 Jan 24 2.44pm
Originally posted by grumpymort Have you even taken a look at our clubs scouts no I do not expect you have. A large % of scouting is done using software so people like to throw out the FM like it's a funny joke but the data used in that game does tend to come from legit sources. You have no clue what DF does or really his full role also he may well be coming up with lots of positives but if SP says no that is it. How do you know if any of those players you listed would even want to come to the club you don't and again $$$$ hi grumpymort, i'm not trying to controversial or insult anyone (and frankly my view doesn't matter to anyone other than me) - I am merely posting in the extremely vain hope that someone from the team of club scouts you mention might read one of these boards and realise there is some fan frustration with how hopeless our signings have been in actually helping the team/improving the squad in any way (Jefferson Lerma aside) across the last three transfer windows. Our lack of wingers is and has been since Wilf left a real concern. I hope that the next week sees some pragmatic transfers that can fill gaps in the team/squad for the rest of the season and beyond. Let us all pray that the scouts, Dougie and all involved have an superb, turbo-charged week and we sign sensibly and end up staying up. My frustration (and I can't imagine I am alone) is that whoever is involved in transfers (whether scouts, DF or those above) has put us in a position where we're having to wait for rabbits to be pulled out of hats in the last week of January in order to give us the ammunition to stay up. Hope you're having a good day wherever you are, and up the Palace
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Originally posted by grumpymort

Have you even taken a look at our clubs scouts no I do not expect you have.

A large % of scouting is done using software so people like to throw out the FM like it's a funny joke but the data used in that game does tend to come from legit sources.

You have no clue what DF does or really his full role also he may well be coming up with lots of positives but if SP says no that is it.

How do you know if any of those players you listed would even want to come to the club you don't and again $$$$

hi grumpymort, i'm not trying to controversial or insult anyone (and frankly my view doesn't matter to anyone other than me) - I am merely posting in the extremely vain hope that someone from the team of club scouts you mention might read one of these boards and realise there is some fan frustration with how hopeless our signings have been in actually helping the team/improving the squad in any way (Jefferson Lerma aside) across the last three transfer windows. Our lack of wingers is and has been since Wilf left a real concern.

I hope that the next week sees some pragmatic transfers that can fill gaps in the team/squad for the rest of the season and beyond. Let us all pray that the scouts, Dougie and all involved have an superb, turbo-charged week and we sign sensibly and end up staying up. My frustration (and I can't imagine I am alone) is that whoever is involved in transfers (whether scouts, DF or those above) has put us in a position where we're having to wait for rabbits to be pulled out of hats in the last week of January in order to give us the ammunition to stay up.

Hope you're having a good day wherever you are, and up the Palace

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